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Old 08-29-2007, 08:15 AM   #51
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BibleJohn. Do rabbits chew cud?
No? Then the bible is certainly errant.


Next question. .
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Bible John and Johnny Skeptic, this thread is an excellent example of why you should take a debate to the formal debates arena. Keeps us riff raff out of it.
In the future perhaps but I am busy at this time.

Remember that I am the Director of a national web ministry, and I have other responsibilities, including perhaps if it is the Lords will a girl friend.
Hmm, maybe she's waiting for you over in BC&H - let's find out!
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The Bible also implies that \pi = 3, so we know that's wrong!

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The Bible also implies that \pi = 3, so we know that's wrong!

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Considering the measuring tools at the time, I think it is a valid rounding off. But finding proof for or even reasonably arguments explaining how the sun stood still etc, will be harder for the inerrantists.
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Which bible are we talking about here any way?
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Maybe the Bible is inerrant, but the God that inspired it is just an intellectually challenged simpleton.

That would explain everything.
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It is not likely that the Bible is inerrant, and that God inspired it. An inerrant and inspired Bible quite naturally indicates a desire that people have access to it, and we know that it was God's intention to make sure that hundreds of millions of people died without hearing the Gospel message because that is exactly what happened, assuming of course for the sake of argument that the God of the Bible exists. Since God deliberately withheld the Gospel message from hundreds of millions of people who died without hearing it, why would he want anyone to hear it?

If the universe is naturalistic (I am not saying that it is), the Gospel message would have been spread according to the prevailing methods of communication, transportation, printing, and translation of a given time period. Those means are entirely secular. On the other hand, if a God exists, and inspired the Bible, and wanted people to have access to it, he certainly would not depend upon human effort over millennia to make it accessible to people.

A child is much more likely to become a Christian if his parents are Christians. This means that God discriminates against the children of skeptics. In the U.S., a much higher percentage of women become Christians than men. This means that God discriminates against men. A much smaller percentage of elderly skeptics become Christians than younger people. That is because elderly people are much less likely to change their worldviews than younger people are. This means that God discriminates against elderly sketpics. If God performs miracle healings today, it is not even debatable that he always discriminates against amputees. However, to God's credit, when he creates hurricanes and kills people with them, he does not discriminate against anyone, and he does not discriminate against innocent animals.
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So the bible is inerrent? Hmmmm...

Now all we need is an inerrant interpreter. I assume, Bible John, that you are he.

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It is not likely that the Bible is inerrant, and that God inspired it. An inerrant and inspired Bible quite naturally indicates a desire that people have access to it, and we know that it was God's intention to make sure that hundreds of millions of people died without hearing the Gospel message because that is exactly what happened, assuming of course for the sake of argument that the God of the Bible exists. Since God deliberately withheld the Gospel message from hundreds of millions of people who died without hearing it, why would he want anyone to hear it?

If the universe is naturalistic (I am not saying that it is), the Gospel message would have been spread according to the prevailing methods of communication, transportation, printing, and translation of a given time period. Those means are entirely secular. On the other hand, if a God exists, and inspired the Bible, and wanted people to have access to it, he certainly would not depend upon human effort over millennia to make it accessible to people.

A child is much more likely to become a Christian if his parents are Christians. This means that God discriminates against the children of skeptics. In the U.S., a much higher percentage of women become Christians than men. This means that God discriminates against men. A much smaller percentage of elderly skeptics become Christians than younger people. That is because elderly people are much less likely to change their worldviews than younger people are. This means that God discriminates against elderly sketpics. If God performs miracle healings today, it is not even debatable that he always discriminates against amputees. However, to God's credit, when he creates hurricanes and kills people with them, he does not discriminate against anyone, and he does not discriminate against innocent animals.
The reason a higher percentage of women turn to religion is that when they lose their beauty in middle age, they become less attractive to some men and thereby turn to a social group such as a church. God discriminates against the whole world when he causes earthquakes, tornadoes, tsunamis, draughts, floods, hunger and most of all, against little innocent children who die every day through cancer without ever given a chance of growing up to savor life.
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