JEST2ASK

1- Corinthians 7 (NIV)
Marriage

1 - Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.[a]
2 - But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.
3 - The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.

4 - The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.

5 - Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

credoconsolans

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" hasn't worked?

DrZoidberg

I'm a modern man. I respect sluts more highly than I do girls that keep their virginity and/or are "respectable". Embracing ones sexuality and living the life in accordance with your nature/instincts I try to encourage, because it makes people happy. Sleeping around is also very educational, because every time we get laid, we learn a little bit more about social interactions. There's a reason virigins are always totally clueless. Anyway, she's realised this too, but is cursed by the fact that she has this faith getting in the way of the lifestyle she wishes to lead. Right now she just feel guilty every time she yearns for some steaming hot man-love.

Some don't sleep around because they aren't pretty. I completely understand if ugly people are devout. It makes life so much easier for them. But She's pretty. Her being Christian in this way is only destructive for her own life and humanity/mankind as a whole.

I am already married with a super wife that I love and worship. I've already done the slutting about part of my life so I'm fine now. Anyway, no this isn't about me. I'm just trying to help.

judge

Show her this thread, that will probably get you laid.

But seriously, you should be getting help from televangelists who seem to have had no trouble convincing people to do this sort of thing.

Added in edit:
Ok I see it is not for you.

Why not just let her be? She will probably see thru most attempts to convince her the bible says it is OK.

Why not try to educate her about the bible first.

DrZoidberg

She thinks I'm smart and has actually asked. She wants to fuck around and be good with God. Both are non-negotiable. So it's basically down to Biblical technical weaselling which she's fine with. She's even taken up this subject with her preacher and he's said that the guy she's fucking now is cool. He said that according to the Bible they're technically married. I strongly doubt that... but anyhoo. She seems to be fine with seeing the Bible as a rule book to work around rather than a spiritual book which speaks to her soul.

I've always maintained that "spiritual" people are always the most shallow ones. This just proves it ever so much more. he he. But I haven't told her that.

Toto

I see you are in Stockholm.

The Muslims have this concept of "temporary marriage" to cover sex outside of wedlock, but I've never known a Christian pastor to allow that.

DrZoidberg

No, its forbidden in Christianity. Its a carry over from Judaism. Islam is based on that which Mohammed thought was original Judaism. Anyway... This was one of the things in Judaism the Christians specifically wanted to reject. Moses was pretty clear on that a man can divorce his wife, but not the other way around. I can't recall where I read it but I do remember reading it explicitly in the Torah.

And its not marriage out of wedlock. Muslims allow polygamy, so there's no problem there.

But because of weird political machinations the Old Testament was also included into Christianity, also as the word of God. Which is insane, since they're obviously covering two completely different deities. But that does give us an added tool for Biblical interpretations. Since there's nothing in the new Testament that says that it overrides the old. So even if the new testament explicitly rejects something, if the old testament allows it, its cool.

youngalexander

I wouldn't worry about it DZ - she will no doubt 'find a way'

JEST2ASK

I think all current humans are classified as such.

Hmmm are you saying that a virgin (male or female) is automatically both unhappy and socially inept? IMO promiscuity does not necessarily mean one is any wiser or more embracing of their basic nature than a person who is (by choice or circumstance) not sexually active. It might be argued that a person who is having casual sex simply because of natural instincts is not acting in the most prudent of manners and perhaps should examine their motivations.

And you being a good friend instead of helping her deal with the guilt (and other) issues are seeking ways for her to justify this Hypocrisy ignoring the need for intellectual inrgrity?

Really not sure if you are serious but I will delay responding to this except to say that I agree knowingly deceiving oneself is harmful to the individual and society as a whole.

OKAY

Clivedurdle

Isn't marriage quite a recent idea - last few hundred years - most people just did not marry - "common law".

And were David and Jonathan married?

My impression of modern young xians was that this is not a big deal.


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