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Barrie Wilson's "How Jesus Became Christian"
I’m reading Barrie Wilson’s book “How Jesus Became a Christian (or via: amazon.co.uk)” and wanted to toss out a few of his ideas for comment. The book is written for a general audience, so I doubt there’s anything new from a scholarly perspective. Many of these points were familiar to me, but he does make some connections that intrigued my semi-knowledgeable brain:
Overall, Wilson approaches biblical history from the James Tabor “Jesus Dynasty” perspective (which probably explains Tabor’s endorsement of the book). Like I said, I doubt that any of these ideas are revolutionary to any of you, but I wonder if there’s anyone that would take issue with them? Frankly, I don’t see how you could, given the textual evidence. douglas |
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Erm, textual evidence? The historical record either does not record these claims, or it contradicts them.
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Do we trust the info on it that we have in the bible? Do we trust Paul or whoever wrote that stuff? Paul sounds dodgey at best to me. As an aside, when they were, at various times, patching the letters and books in the bible to make them more "appropriate" those doing it would have only been thinking a short distance ahead - not 2000 years with all this time and effort spent by average peasants with reading skills and fantastic communication networks. They were fixing problems for their generation only I think and did not think that too many people would be examining their work as the vast majority would be too busy to read the originals even if they could access them which is doubtful. |
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I was referring to the textual evidence in the bible itself. For example, the bolded part of this section of Matthew....
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See this thread on Barrie Wison's book.
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The alternative to this is that the Jewish elements were added or emphasized as anti-Marcionite additions or corrections to the original Christian message (whatever that was.) We can't really tell who is the rightful "heir" of Jesus, once you decide that the winners rewrote history. Acts might have been written to give Paul legitimacy, but more likely to subordinate him to the proto-orthodox. At one point I tried to look into the Desposynoi (also here), but quickly ran into a blank wall. |
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Thanks for the response. I think Wilson would argue that you only get "one side of the story" in Gal 1. Regardless, even if you take Paul's story as fact, his own description never says that James or Peter agreed with his position, just that he opposed them on the issue of Law.
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Finding contradictions in a long text and then using them as 'evidence' for some theory of our own is a silly game. Try it on any long text -- you can always do it! |
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