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01-28-2009, 12:50 AM | #1 |
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The tomb of Alexander the Great
I wonder if anyone knows of a list online of all the ancient literary references to the tomb of Alexander? Or an offline article that lists them? It would be interesting to see what they amount to.
Motive was turning on the TV last night and finding a truly awful TV programme on the subject, which skirted the data to peddle some crank theory. It led me to wonder what the data was. All the best, Roger Pearse |
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There is a list of sorts here, but not a very good one. Note the lack of proper references. I've started to add them, with links, in brackets.
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Note 48 on the word 'sema' in the Loeb Strabo gives us this (thanks to Bill Thayer):
48 i.e. "Tomb." However, the MSS. (see critical note) read Soma, i.e. "Body." And so does the Greek version of the Pseudo-Callisthenes (C. Müller, Didot Edition, Scriptores Rerum Alexandri Magni III, 3.34): "And Ptolemy made a tomb in the holy place called 'Body of Alexander,' and there he laid the body, or remains, of Alexander"; but the Syrian version (Alexander the Great, trans. by E. A. W. Budge, p142) reads: "and they call that place 'The tomb of Alexander' unto this day." But more important is the statement of Zenobius (Proverbia III.94): "Ptolemy (Philopator) built in the middle of the city a mnema (μνῆμα οἰκοδομήσας), which is now called the Sema, and he laid there all his forefathers together with his mother, and also Alexander the Macedonian." |
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Dear Roger,
The book The Quest for the Tomb of Alexander the Great (or via: amazon.co.uk) by Andrew Chugg, ONLINE at google books at page 122 states that we have two sources: 1) an older one by Ammianus, and 2) a more recently gleaned statement from Libanius, Oration 49, 11-12. Best wishes, Pete |
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Interesting topic Roger, there are so many bad "history" shows on tv, I just can't stand watching them for any length of time.
I found the Suetonius quote on Caligula interesting, though kind of off topic. It reminded me of something I read in Josephus, so I looked it up. Antiquities of the Jews 12.354 "About this time it was that king Antiochus, as he was going over the upper countries, heard that there was a very rich city in Persia, called Elymais; and therein a very rich temple of Diana, and that it was full of all sorts of donations dedicated to it; as also weapons and breastplates, which, upon inquiry, he found had been left there by Alexander, the son of Philip, king of Macedonia. And being incited by these motives, he went in haste to Elymais, and assaulted it, and besieged it. But as those that were in it were not terrified at his assault, nor at his siege, but opposed him very courageously, he was beaten off his hopes; for they drove him away from the city, and went out and pursued after him, insomuch that he fled away as far as Babylon, and lost a great many of his army. And when he was grieving for this disappointment, some persons told him of the defeat of his commanders whom he had left behind him to fight against Judea, and what strength the Jews had already gotten. When this concern about these affairs was added to the former, he was confounded, and by the anxiety he was in fell into a distemper, which, as it lasted a great while, and as his pains increased upon him, so he at length perceived he should die in a little time; so he called his friends to him, and told them that his distemper was severe upon him; and confessed withal, that this calamity was sent upon him for the miseries he had brought upon the Jewish nation, while he plundered their temple, and contemned their God; and when he had said this, he gave up the ghost. Whence one may wonder at Polybius of Megalopolis, who, though otherwise a good man, yet saith that "Antiochus died because he had a purpose to plunder the temple of Diana in Persia;" for the purposing to do a thing, but not actually doing it, is not worthy of punishment. But if Polybius could think that Antiochus thus lost his life on that account, it is much more probable that this king died on account of his sacrilegious plundering of the temple at Jerusalem. But we will not contend about this matter with those who may think that the cause assigned by this Polybius of Megalopolis is nearer the truth than that assigned by us." So this makes me wonder if there is any truth at all to the Suetonius story about Caligula plundering the sarcophagus for the breastplate. Or if this story was added in to explain his demise, and blacken his name. It would seem that if attempting to steal a breastplate of Alexander was believed enough in the ancient world to get your army destroyed and yourself killed, that Caligula wouldn't have done something even worse. It's one thing to steal Alexander's breastplate when there is no horrible precedent, but with this precedent it seems unlikely even a horrible narcissist would do it. Since I don't think anyone but Suetonius repeats this story, I think it is probably but a story. |
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Doesn't this confuse different things? Antiochus III looted the temple because he needed money. The armour left there wasn't Alexander's personal property. Caligula took an item from the mummy belonging to Alexander personally.
Not sure about your last point. If we look at the list of items, how many of them should we ignore on the basis that they are the only item to tell us this? Surely it's a very unsafe way to treat data? We can only ignore a piece of data if we have others that contradict it, I think. Your feelings about bad history programmes are mine. I can't watch them. I keep asking myself "never mind your voice-to-camera, your light-relief episode, etc etc, what are the raw facts on this matter"? |
01-29-2009, 01:44 AM | #8 |
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Another reference: Quintus Curtius, book 10, ch. 10, v. 20.
20 Ceterum corpus eius a Ptolemaeo, cui Aegyptus cesserat, Memphim et inde paucis post annis Alexandriam translatum est omnisque memoriae ac nomini honos habitus. 20. Finally his body was taken by Ptolemy, to whom Egypt had surrendered, to Memphis and then a few years later to Alexandria, and ... |
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