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Old 09-27-2003, 02:41 PM   #11
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Hahaha, an "honorary" Jew.
Does one have to get "honorarily" circumcised?

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thankyou. i've actually been here before. i just don't get out much .
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]Hahaha, an "honorary" Jew. Is that like a university giving out an honorary degree? And those resources and skill that are needed to become a "real" Jew part of the Evil Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world?
that would be point number five he is claiming to have demonstrated:

"...Fifthly it shows that the ideology that many calls Judaism is not a religion, but a political system, bent on enslaving the world including you...."



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That he's making all this up may be obvious even to him, though I shouldn't hold out that much hope. [/B]
i thought this guy might have been trouble but he is clearly some moron cribbing his notes from some hate site.

he has been unable to respond to a single counter and refused to respond to me when i was there countering him (although i see he came circling back later to puff up his chest and blow some more smoke. guess i'll have to go back).
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Judaism is the only reigion based on racism...in all other religions you become what you become as a result of change or conversion to a belief.
Wrong. Racism is certainly present in Judaism: there are some racial slurs about Black people in the Talmud that will curl your hair. Please note, however, that Orthodox Jews, who subscribe to such nonsense, make up less that 5% of all Jews.

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But in the case of Judaism...you have to be born one...and you can only be a Jew if your mother is a Jew...
If you analyse this carefully, you will see that waht this means is that so-called Jewish Men could father children, but who would not be considered Jews.
It is true that according to Orthodox law, only the child of a Jewish mother is considered Jewish. However, most modern Jews ignore such nonsense. And, by the way, conversion to judaism is posssible and is no more difficult than coversion to xtianity. (The difference is that judaism doesn't prosylethize.) This final sentence is an out and out racial slander. If you want to go by the law, fathering illegitimate children is a sin.

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The press talks about what other religions do to women who marry outside of their religion...
Perhaps one day I will give you instances of what happens to Jewish women who marry outside of their religion without permission...
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The Orthodox can be quite shitty about intermarriage. For the rest of us, over 50% of Jews (myself included, twice) intermarry. As to the last, there are vague racist overtones.

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When the marriage is outside of the religion it is a strategy...
Here is one strategy...Kofi Anan' wife is a Jew!.
I guess the implication here is that Kofi Anan is controlled by his Jewish wife. Standard antisemitic ranting. Let's not forget, in this regard, that Howard Dean's wife is Jewish and Wesley Clark's father is Jewish (although, I guess, that don't count).

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If you read through to the end you will see that you are goyim.

If only one person reads this it would have been worth posting.

Just letting you know what what Jews think about the Non-Jews...lest you think that they are grateful for your support.
It is true that the word "goyim" frequently has unpleasant connotations. After a thousand years or so of persecution by xtains, jews have developed a snobbery of their own. Unfortunate, and I fight against it all the time (sometimes in myself).
If Christians spoke Hebrew and read the Talmud/Current Jewish Book of Laws, not the one given to Moses, but the one which they interpolated and from which much indeed all of Christianity developed...one would see the two truths of both religions...but alas...the world is kept in the dark about Hebrew(killed by the speakers so that literature written in it would stay hidden. hmmmmm:think:
This is just antisemitic rambling. The Talmud represents interpretations and updating of the laws in the Bible. The implication is that there is something sinister about the development of Jewish law over hundreds of years. As to xtianity, developing from judaism, sure. But I don't think I have to remind people on this board of how quickly and decisively it diverged. That stuff about Hebrew is just paranoia.

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Just want you to know that is one of the reasons Latin was killed or declared dead ...was to keep Literature...and Law, Science and Medicine which uses Latin to the exclusion of all other Latin for its terminology... in the hands of a few, and away from the rest.
Just crazy. Latin died in the humanities 400 or so years and more ago as each European country developed its own intelligentisia and artists outside the church. The stuff about terminology is nuts.

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You will have remembered those who read my long posts, that I said language was alienative and integrative...

Some of us made the time to study these dead languages...and guess what it says about Non-Jews.
Ranting. Just ranting.

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One day perhaps, I will give some translated quotes from the Torah and the Talmud, so Christian and Non-Jews can see that they are considered filthy and servants of Jews...
Then you will no longer wonder why Israel rules America and are trying to rule the world by proxy...

It also explains why American suffer, but Israel gets billions every year...just because they exist, and control Americans...

But the day will come when America will be cast aside just as they did Britain. .
Large sections of the Talmud are already available, in English, online.
Jewish Sacred Texts

As to Jews ruling the world and America, standard ranting. Israel, as the US stalking horse in the Mid-East gets aid. But it is a miniscule amount of dough compared with the expenditures of the US government, overall. (It averages to about $2 billion a year over the past 50 years or about $100 billion. Consider that Bush is asking for $87 billion for a supplement for Iraq for this year!)

Punta, this is actually very low-level antisemitism. It's really just an extended, hysterical screech. There's practically no content to it. (Where are the sinister power of the Rothchild Bank, Jewish Bolsheviks, the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?) This guy ought to go to Aryan Nations school or something like that and learned his antisemitism. This is daycare stuff.

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thanks for all your help.

very kindy-garten hate-mongering i now realize. all-in-all he came across looking very silly (i think).

he's more Farrakhan than Aryan Nations.
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This guy ought to go to Aryan Nations school or something like that and learned his antisemitism. This is daycare stuff.
Now that is an insult! Reminds me of the, actually, underated film Porky's--Director's Cut available on Beta!--where a Jew responds to a bigot who calls him a "kite"--"I guess you're too stupid to be a good bigot!"

[Ascends Soapbox] It can prove both painful and time consuming to fight such cretins of hate; yet those who do deserve support. Rarely will one change a racist, but one may prevent someone from becoming a racist.

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