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Old 11-06-2009, 12:33 PM   #1
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(The author is a graduate student at MIT.)
A graduate student in what field of study?

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The first review is out:

(The author is a graduate student at MIT.)
A graduate student in what field of study?

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Engineering Systems, as you might have inferred.
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Engineering Systems, as you might have inferred.
Really? Is "engineering systems" the only thing that anyone studies or pursues graduate work in at MIT? Are the writers for the journal in which the review appears only graduate students in engineering systems?

If not, them why might I have inferred this?

In any case, do you think that being an expert in engineering studies gives the author the competence to make the claims he does about NT studies and/or evaluate the linguistic arguments that Earl makes in support of his case?

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Not sure that these ill-tempered exchanges lead anywhere, but for some reason it did remind me of a description of one philosophy student who was described as "majoring in bullshit and minoring in fornication and its associated diseases."

Too much time at university can breed cynicism. As was remarked of Mark Pattison, sometime dean of Oriel, his long experience as dean led him to be sceptical of men, "particularly Oxford men."
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Engineering Systems, as you might have inferred.
Really? Is "engineering systems" the only thing that anyone studies or pursues graduate work in at MIT? Are the writers for the journal in which the review appears only graduate students in engineering systems?

If not, them why might I have inferred this?

In any case, do you think that being an expert in engineering studies gives the author the competence to make the claims he does about NT studies and/or evaluate the linguistic arguments that Earl makes in support of his case?

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Hi Jeffrey Jeffrey - forgive me if I do not take this bait. MIT is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and while it is not longer confined to engineering students, it still specializes in training engineers. But you are right, I should not have expected you to infer anything. I should have typed "as you could have found out if you had googled him."

MIT is very selective, and its graduate students are very intelligent. This particular graduate student writes on cultural matters. The article gives the student writer's email address should you choose to browbeat him on his technical qualifications.

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Really? Is "engineering systems" the only thing that anyone studies or pursues graduate work in at MIT? Are the writers for the journal in which the review appears only graduate students in engineering systems?

If not, them why might I have inferred this?

In any case, do you think that being an expert in engineering studies gives the author the competence to make the claims he does about NT studies and/or evaluate the linguistic arguments that Earl makes in support of his case?

Jeffrey

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Hi Jeffrey Jeffrey - forgive me if I do not take this bait.
What bait?

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MIT is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Yes, I am aware of what it is

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and while it is not longer confined to engineering students,
No longer confined? Was it ever? The following suggests not.

http://en.wikipedia.org wiki/History_of_the_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technolo gy

So does this:

http://web.mit.edu/facts/mission.html

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it still specializes in training engineers.
It does?? Here is the list of the departments at MIT:


Here are the degrees offered:

Bachelor of Science (SB)
Master of Architecture (MArch)
Master of Business Administration (MBA)
Master in City Planning (MCP)
Master of Engineering (MEng)
Master of Finance (MFin)
Master of Science (SM)
Engineer (each degree designates the field in which it is awarded)
Doctor of Philosophy (PhD)
Doctor of Science (ScD)

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But you are right, I should not have expected you to infer anything. I should have typed "as you could have found out if you had googled him."
Perhaps you should have. But you didn't.

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MIT is very selective, and its graduate students are very intelligent. This particular graduate student writes on cultural matters.
Does that mean, as I asked, that he actually is competent in matters NT and Koine or only that it is to be inferred that he might be?

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Fascinating that you should suggest this since the only one here who seems to be doing any browbeating (and also question dodging) is you.

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This is all off topic and a waste of time. Please drop it.

I just posted the review. If you don't like it, read the book and write your own.
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This is all off topic and a waste of time. Please drop it.

I just posted the review. If you don't like it, read the book and write your own.
Could you at least admit that you were wrong not only about what MIT "does" and therefore also about what anyone might have inferred about the focus of the reviewer's graduate studies, but to imply, as you did, that I was a dunce for not seeing (what to you was) "the obvious"?

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This is all off topic and a waste of time. Please drop it.

I just posted the review. If you don't like it, read the book and write your own.
Could you at least admit that you were wrong not only about what MIT "does" and therefore also about what anyone might have inferred about the focus of the reviewer's graduate studies, but to imply, as you did, that I was a dunce for not seeing (what to you was) "the obvious"?

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MIT specializes in engineering and technical subjects. Am I wrong about that?

I said I should not have used the word inferred. Isn't that enough?

And if you infer that I thought you were a dunce because you did not realize that the author of the piece was a student of some branch of engineering, then you are wrong in your attempt to read my mind.

This is still off topic.
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This is all off topic and a waste of time. Please drop it.

I just posted the review. If you don't like it, read the book and write your own.
And here I thought the issue wasn't whether I liked the review (or not), but the question of why anyone should take it seriously, especially if its author has little to no expertise in matters NT and Koine and is therefore not competent of weighing and understanding Earl's linguistic arguments.

But if you want to equivocate on this matter, fine by me.

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