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Old 04-16-2004, 10:29 AM   #1
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Default Mirror image of head found on Shroud of TUrin

Looks like researchers have found a mirror image of the head on the otherside of the shroud. Let's see Joe Nickel explain this.


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When you flip over the potato chip with christ's image on it, is there is a mirror image on the rear?

Why wouldn't a forger be smart enough to apply an image to the backside? Why wouldn't the application of an image to the front result in a fainter mirror image on the back? Maybe the image on the rear is a test image before the forger really got down to business?
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Maybe the forger painted the faint image on the back first, and then hung it up in front of the window, and used the sunlight shining through as guidelines. (duh)
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http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=82506

Already been discussed.
Seems unlikely.
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Default Mirror Image LITERALLY Correct!!

If you inspect the facial image on the Shroud, what you will see IS a mirror image!! That is, you see the image produced when a three dimensional head is REFLECTED off a plane surface like a mirror. What you DON'T see is the distortion produced when a flat surface is wrapped around/draped over a three dimensional object, stained, and then laid out flat again!

If what I am saying is not clear to you, try this little test: With your heat tilted back, lay a handkerchief across your face. with the thumb and forefinger of each hand grasp the handkerchief at the outer extremes of your eye sockets. Now lift the handkerchief off without changing your grasp. Then look into a mirror while you hold the handkerchief flat just below your eyes. Align one thumb with the reflection of the referenced point of one eye-socket. See how much the other thumb reference extends beyond the reflection of the other eyesocket? Had your handkerchief been stained by contact with your eye-sockets, the corresponding stains would be that far apart!

This horizontal elongation is conspicuously absent from the Turin image. Rather, you see an image that looks just like a reflection in a mirror. Ergo, it could not possibly have been produced by contact with a three dimensional head!

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Capt. Kirk is right. He has found a huge discrepancy that needs to be looked at...*pun intended*. The shroud does not reflect...*again, pun intended*...the distortion produced when a flat surface is wrapped around/draped over a three dimensional object, stained, and then laid out flat again (to use his words).
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Capt. Kirk is right. He has found a huge discrepancy that needs to be looked at...*pun intended*. The shroud does not reflect...*again, pun intended*...the distortion produced when a flat surface is wrapped around/draped over a three dimensional object, stained, and then laid out flat again (to use his words).
Just to make this point clear, here is a "texture" image for my 3D program that shows literally an unwrapped head:

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There is also a second discrepancy. Look at the hair in the image. It hangs straight down in the manner of someone standing...not in the manner of a person in the normal supine position of a laid out corpse. Look at the picture at this site for reference.

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If you inspect the facial image on the Shroud, what you will see IS a mirror image!! That is, you see the image produced when a three dimensional head is REFLECTED off a plane surface like a mirror. What you DON'T see is the distortion produced when a flat surface is wrapped around/draped over a three dimensional object, stained, and then laid out flat again!
A much more clear example of this on the shroud is to look at the face and the back of the head.

They are both undistorted 'mirror' images that meet at a point at the top point of the head.

The only way that this could happen from someone being wrapped in the shroud is for that person to have been a flat cardboard cut-out.
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what is the proponents' usual reply to this sort of thing?
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