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Old 01-29-2008, 06:17 PM   #51
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Why would god make us flammable? :huh: :grin:
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It helps to have a sense of humor around here.

Well, your contortions are quite funny, if a bit pathetic...
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Why is it that you guys accept all sorts of metaphorical/allegorical interpretations of stuff like this, but you believe that Genesis is literally true? How do you know which parts are metaphors, and which parts are literal?
I don't believe the eath is six thousand years old.
Neither did I. You know it's all 'downhill' from there, right? j/k :Cheeky:

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WTF? It's nice to see that fundies do ahve a sense of humour...
If your allowed to call me "fundie" can I call you a skeptie?
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:59 AM   #55
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Okay your wanting to suggest i imagine these woods? Well having actually worked with them and i consider you have not because you would not assert such an uninformed link. these do not burn at common house temperature,not only that if they did the fumes from the stuff would kill every animal for miles around. the PPE we have to wear when working with this stuff is very extensive and includes respirator just to drill into it. so be my guest burn it all you want. you'll die soon enough. Besides todays weaponry does not contain this it is used mostly in combat aircraft applications for rigidity in flight surfaces. it is used no where in the arms used by soldiers. those are made of steel, brass, lead, iron, and minute plastic parts that melt not burn. So good try by your rifle isn't bored and you missed the barn by a mile. I was a master machinist for the air force at Edwards AFB for 20 years so i know about allot of materials you have never heard of. most military applications by need is usually flame retardant. you see people burn easily so we try to keep the things they use from burning them. kind of the point.
Thank you for your explanation. But the theory is that Russia, in the future, may use that material, or a derivative, of much inferior quality than is used by the United States which obviously isn't flameable. The other theory is that oil production may actually be greatly diminished in the future (didn't they burn oil field in Iraq?) so armies may resort to weaponry that does not run on oil. Besides the overriding factor is that this invading army is defeated and Israel continues to exist.
And yes i am a skepie! feel free i have a tremendous sense of humor. I have no doubt that your correct about a war for fuel. War has always been about natural resources unless of course you go looking for WMD's.:Cheeky:But Russia using these phenolic woods is probably not going to really happen due to the cost of producing them. It is cheaper to use aluminum or fiberglass. The thing here is Egypt has not suffered desolation in over ...well ...never. And after the time sugars talking about it had an up sweep in prosperity. But lets look at it from a gamblers perspective. Would you bet everything you have on a 2000 to 1 long shot? Maybe a better analogy would be would you keep pulling the one armed bandit for 2000 years even if it never came up red white and blue sevens? But i am still waiting on sugars time date and what actually occurs since he seams to have the inside track on this whole prophecy coming soon. Also what makes now so special? is it any more special then 1946? why wait 60 years? I mean whats so special about his life time that warrants the second coming. it didn't happen during other times that were just as if not more deserving?
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Thank you for your explanation. But the theory is that Russia, in the future, may use that material, or a derivative, of much inferior quality than is used by the United States which obviously isn't flameable. The other theory is that oil production may actually be greatly diminished in the future (didn't they burn oil field in Iraq?) so armies may resort to weaponry that does not run on oil. Besides the overriding factor is that this invading army is defeated and Israel continues to exist.
how does this relate to the relevant prophecy by Ezekiel in 38 and 39 which clearly uses quite literal designations for bows, arrows, etc, and having Israel use these fallen weapons as FUEL instead of WOOD from the forests? you just said it cannot burn -- and if it does, i would imagine it to release quite deadly gases. . . :huh:
So ignorant of prophecies. Revelation and the prophets shows that the whole earth will be plagued by fires as well as desolations. They dont take wood from the forest because maybe there wont be any or very few left. And to harness harmful subtances for fuel in a safe way is nothing new...like gasoline, Nuclear Reactors etc. I belive critics are false visualizing again concerning Israel using harmful things for fuel. Maybe they see them throwing this stuff into a crude fireplace, or outdoor barrel warming their hands. Silly people. :wave:
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how does this relate to the relevant prophecy by Ezekiel in 38 and 39 which clearly uses quite literal designations for bows, arrows, etc, and having Israel use these fallen weapons as FUEL instead of WOOD from the forests? you just said it cannot burn -- and if it does, i would imagine it to release quite deadly gases. . . :huh:
So ignorant of prophecies.
giving the Christian ignorance of Judaism and understanding fatidic scripture, the pot seems to have trouble with the kettle.
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Revelation and the prophets shows that the whole earth will be plagued by fires as well as desolations.
but Ezekiel is not talking about Apocalypse of John. you are shoe-horning your favorite scripture and interpretation into ancient Hebrew prophetic visions. that is a definite no-no, Mr Hitman. please try again.
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They dont take wood from the forest because maybe there wont be any or very few left.
where does Ezekiel say this? his vision has to do with Gog attempting to overtake Israel and specifically says, 38:14 "...In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it?" it would seem that this happens when The Chosen People are LIVING IN SAFETY. how you can run a line from this to the orthodox Christian apocalypse is without explanation. care to do so? PLEASE re-read Ezekiel and try TRY not to read more into it than is there. your presuppositions astound me.
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And to harness harmful subtances for fuel in a safe way is nothing new...like gasoline, Nuclear Reactors etc.
this is wholly unrelated to the topic. FUEL, Mr Hitman, is what Yahweh is discussing. ie, fuel in their fireplaces. He says there would be so many small and large shields, bows, arrows, etc, that the Israelites would not need to cut down any more wood from the forest.

again, please explain how this makes ANY sense in the 21st century given that we do not use any of this in warfare anymore. as i already said, and you failed to address: how does this relate to the relevant prophecy by Ezekiel in 38 and 39 which clearly uses quite literal designations for bows, arrows, etc?
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I belive critics are false visualizing again concerning Israel using harmful things for fuel. Maybe they see them throwing this stuff into a crude fireplace, or outdoor barrel warming their hands. Silly people. :wave:
Arnoldo seemed to be making a joke and a detractor explained why the joke, if serious, would not be possible even then.

you may wish to read through the ENTIRE part of the threads you missed before replying to tangents and jokes. . . :Cheeky:
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how does this relate to the relevant prophecy by Ezekiel in 38 and 39 which clearly uses quite literal designations for bows, arrows, etc, and having Israel use these fallen weapons as FUEL instead of WOOD from the forests? you just said it cannot burn -- and if it does, i would imagine it to release quite deadly gases. . . :huh:
So ignorant of prophecies. Revelation and the prophets shows that the whole earth will be plagued by fires as well as desolations. They dont take wood from the forest because maybe there wont be any or very few left. And to harness harmful subtances for fuel in a safe way is nothing new...like gasoline, Nuclear Reactors etc. I belive critics are false visualizing again concerning Israel using harmful things for fuel. Maybe they see them throwing this stuff into a crude fireplace, or outdoor barrel warming their hands. Silly people. :wave:
Okay so your moving the goal post to Revelations i thought this was about Ol' Zeke and his prophecy and the 40 years desolation of Egypt? You still haven't answered the question of why should the other 99.9 percent of the planet care if men on chariots show up and attack Egypt and then somehow it winds up in desolation. Again I ask since you have the inside track on when this is going to happen you said "soon" which i presume your expecting in your lifetime. And you actually believe Modern Egypt cant fight off guys in chariots using bows and arrows as there most advanced weapon, please tell us the exact times and dates given by Ol'Zeke. Also addressing your post. if the entire planet is on fire why would anyone need to warm their hands? And you call us silly people. Also do you know what happens when you throw some rounds on a fire? Watch mythbusters and they will show you. But just in case i would do it behind bullet proof lexan and at a safe distance.:wave:
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Thank you for your explanation. But the theory is that Russia, in the future, may use that material, or a derivative, of much inferior quality than is used by the United States which obviously isn't flameable. The other theory is that oil production may actually be greatly diminished in the future (didn't they burn oil field in Iraq?) so armies may resort to weaponry that does not run on oil. Besides the overriding factor is that this invading army is defeated and Israel continues to exist.
how does this relate to the relevant prophecy by Ezekiel in 38 and 39 which clearly uses quite literal designations for bows, arrows, etc, and having Israel use these fallen weapons as FUEL instead of WOOD from the forests? you just said it cannot burn -- and if it does, i would imagine it to release quite deadly gases. . . :huh:
Arnoldo, you may have missed my query. answer it at your leisure.
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So ignorant of prophecies. Revelation and the prophets shows that the whole earth will be plagued by fires as well as desolations. They dont take wood from the forest because maybe there wont be any or very few left. And to harness harmful subtances for fuel in a safe way is nothing new...like gasoline, Nuclear Reactors etc. I belive critics are false visualizing again concerning Israel using harmful things for fuel. Maybe they see them throwing this stuff into a crude fireplace, or outdoor barrel warming their hands. Silly people. :wave:
So ignorant of the Bible. Where the heck did you get the idea to call the 'chariots, bows, and arrows' bit symbolic of modern weapons, and then take something in the book of Revelation as literal?!?!?! That's why the prophecies work (in your mind, anyway), because you CHERRY PICK what you WANT them to mean.:wave:
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