Malachi151

Okay, supposedly Jesus is the translation of Yeshua, and so is Joshua, so why do we have both Jesus and Joshua. Are all of the Yeshuas in the Hebrew scriptures translated as Iēsous in the Septuagint?

I ask because someone is claiming that "Jesus" comes from "Je-Zeus", my lord Zeus, or something like this.

I can't read Greek so I can't get into the details of this, nor can I explain why we have both Joshua and Jesus.

Toto

Yes. There are many Iēsous' in the LXX.

Not that again.

Search the archives.

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=186991

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=130225

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=107958

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=72517

Briefly, the Hebrew "Joshua" (Yoshua) became the Aramaic "Yeshua." Greek does not have the 'sh' sound, so Yeshua became Iesous, with a Greek ending.

Sheshbazzar

So does that indicate that it is impossible for Greek speakers to "frame to pronounce [it] right"?- Judges 12:6

Copernic

I understand that Yeshua or Yehoshua means "God Saves" or something like that. Hmm what a coincidence.
Is it necessary that all the Jesus' running around at the time, particularly in Josephus' accounts aren't proper names but instead titles (self imposed or otherwise).
Wouldn't anyone claiming to be a messiah naturally call himself Yeshua even though his birth name may have been Larry?

J

GakuseiDon

Infidel! It comes from "Je-seus", the name applied to Krishna and meant "pure essense".

Or it comes from Horus, who was known as "Iusa the KRST", and who raised "El-Azarus" (Lazarus, get it?)

Or it comes from Dionysus, whose symbol was “IES,” which became “Iesus” or “Jesus.”

All from the "Inquisitive Atheists" website:
http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/godmen

Can the above be merely coincidence? Only those stuck in a historicist mindset, who KNOW the truth but are too afraid to admit it, will deny all this.

Nazaroo

Can the current line you're reading be merely coincidence?

Toto

Nazaroo: I hope you realize GakuseiDon is being sarcastic.

S.C.Carlson

While we're at it, there are also two translations for Judas (or Jude).

S.C.Carlson

Owing to the popularity of theophoric names, I'd be surprised if a would be messiah didn't have an appropriate name.

Stephen

GakuseiDon

As Toto said, I wasn't being serious. I should add that it's not a dig at Malachi either, since it is a reasonable question to ask, at least for clarification purposes. I was having a go at that website, that could offer three alternatives without wondering how three cultures could come up with a similar name.