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Richard Carrier on Miracles and Historical Method
An excellent argument on early documentary and physical evidence of eyewitness accounts about miracles, and how these relate to historical method. It is the story of the intercession of the gods Hermes and Zeus on behalf of the Roman legions on the Danube against the Danubian hordes. Then he goes on with the Christian "version" of these reports. Then he goes into the miraculous events at Delphi and how we actually have physical evidence of this place; and several other miraculous reports, such as a certain resurrection of fish, with much larger eye-witness support than the Jesus resurrection. At about 32:00 or so he begins to detail [given there was very little literacy (10%) and semi-literacy (20%), nearly no skeptical investigators, no journalists, etc, which he previously discussed], what were the criteria of reliability people had at their time. At about 56:00 or so he comments that people today, with all our access to information and education, have similar fallacious thinking processes... liberal, libertarian, conservative, and so on, all have their own myths and semi-truths. However brief, nice to be reminded of this. From there on, he discusses on the probability of the truth of claims. Magnificent, and as crushing as an intervention by Zeus the thunderer. One hour pounding heavily against the credence of Biblical miracles and myths in general. |
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