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Old 10-29-2010, 03:34 AM   #1
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Default What if baby Moses drowned?

The original choreography was to drown baby Moses, the text suggests [Exodus 1:22].
When the child was rescued, was that Yahweh's plan A or B?


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What if (young) Luke Skywalker had died in that jet-car race?

But, obviously it was Yahweh's plan to kill every boy, while at the same time not killing every boy (by saving a 'special' one). Inconsistent of the big fella? I suspect some literary embroidery and artistic license to add some drama to a rather dull and unpleasant tale.
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You point has merit.
I am not a supporter of the Exodus story, but since I have to ward off the attacks from the opposition [some of my former friends in churches], I need to have lethal weapons concealed in my arguments.
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You point has merit.
I am not a supporter of the Exodus story, but since I have to ward off the attacks from the opposition [some of my former friends in churches], I need to have lethal weapons concealed in my arguments.
Moses is unidentifiable without the Exodus story. No Exodus, no Moses.
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You point has merit.
I am not a supporter of the Exodus story, but since I have to ward off the attacks from the opposition [some of my former friends in churches], I need to have lethal weapons concealed in my arguments.
Moses is equal to James who was the brother of Jesus who was born in Matthew where there was no manger to nurture him 'from on high.' He [too] fled to Egypt to get educated about instead of in the reign of God, and frequented Capernaum after that to say that he was reborn from below as opposed to above as per John 1:13.

He was an early Billy Grahamite, you can say, and perhaps very popular but only among his own. So Herods massacre in Matthew's is equal to the pharao's pursuit and Miriam there was our Magdalene who is the lesser serpent that strikes the heel of Moses with second hand oats from the greater serpent for having fornicated his own rebirth. This then is how the wrath of God is fed to him one sip at the time on account of Moses being the son of a self righteous Levite = feeding his own disaster.
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The link in the OP states:

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The Bible records that the Egyptian Pharaoh sought to limit the increasing numbers of Hebrews by decreeing that every new-born male baby should be thrown into the Nile River.

Girl babies would be spared. The Pharaoh hoped they would marry Egyptian men, so that Hebrew identity and culture would be suppressed and forgotten, and the Hebrews would integrate into the Egyptian population. It was a type of pogrom.
The joke seems to be on Pharaoh if descent was matrilineal, as the girls would still produce Hebrew offspring. The story suggests descent was patrilineal at the time it was written.

There may have been a Moses, but no rational person would argue that the basket story is true.

The word for basket (Tevat) in Hebrew is the same one used for Noah's ark.

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When she could no longer hide him, she took a papyrus basket for him, and coated it with tar and with pitch.
Coats it with tar and pitch just like the ark also.
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The word for basket in Hebrew is the same one used for Noah's ark.
Interesting and reminds me of this poem:

If he had known unstructured space is a deluge,
and stocked his life-houseboat with all of the animals
. . . even the wolves,
he might have floated!
But obstinate he stated: the land is solid,
. . . and stamped,
watching his foot sink down up through stone to the knee.

So both the basket and the ark are metaphors and the potential to make it is real but Moses must have been an apostle short to make it to the other side of life.
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A Neo-Assyrian text from the 7th century BC purporting to be Sargon's autobiography asserts that the great king was the illegitimate son of a priestess. In the Neo-Assyrian account Sargon's birth and his early childhood are described thus:
“ My mother was a high priestess, my father I knew not. The brothers of my father loved the hills. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the banks of the Euphrates. My high priestess mother conceived me, in secret she bore me. She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river which rose over me. The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the drawer of water. Akki, the drawer of water, took me as his son and reared me. Akki, the drawer of water, appointed me as his gardener. While I was a gardener, Ishtar granted me her love, and for four and ... years I exercised kingship.”
The image of Sargon as a castaway set adrift on a river resembles the better-known birth narrative of Moses. Scholars such as Joseph Campbell and Otto Rank have compared the 7th century BC Sargon account with the obscure births of other heroic figures from history and mythology, including Karna, Oedipus, Paris, Telephus, Semiramis, Perseus, Romulus, Gilgamesh, Cyrus, Jesus, and others.


wikipedia, "Sargon of Akkad" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad

Literalists take all the fun out of mythology...
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Lots of possibilites.

What if his replacement wasn't such a dork.. the possibilities are endless.

The Burning Bush...he yells -'FIRE' and empties his water jug on it and then beats it with a shovel. This pisses off god who designates a different 'Chosen People' like the Okinawans or the Eskimos.

What if the Moses' replacement was a sloppy speller and messed up writing the commandments...'Hey, dude, why do these eight say 'Shall Not' but these other two say 'Shall Now'?. I'm getting tired of all this fornicating'.
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Literalists take all the fun out of mythology...
Great observation!
Fundamentalist teachers would despise you for that.
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