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Quasimofo · 06-09-2006, 08:39 AM

Say you had a pie, a delicious freshly baked pie. Now let's say that this pie was a pie of apple. You tell your child "DON'T EAT THIS PIE BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU WILL SURELY DIE!". Now you know full well this won't happen but you just really don't want them touching this pie. Is this the wrong approach? NO! That's just some damn good use of scare tactics!

...Well it would have been, except you forgot that your kid doesn't know what the hell DEATH means :P. In fact it turns out this pie was magical and it was not until after your child ate the pie that they became aware of the concept of death and why stealing your pie was wrong.

GOD JUST WANTED ALL THE APPLES TO HIMSELF!

PS: Your child ends up living for 930 years, go figure.

Chris Porter · 06-09-2006, 09:16 AM

Considering this looks much like a retelling of the garden of Eden story, I'm going to move this to Biblical Criticism and History, where I believe such things are discussed. It may more accurately belong in Moral Foundations and Principles ("is it right to tell a lie?"), but I shall leave that to the next moderator to spot this. All I can aver at this time is that this, being obviously Judeo-Christian, and not addressing philosophical issues, should move elsewhere.

Quasimofo · 06-09-2006, 09:21 AM

Oops, my bad, I did mean to post it in this section, thank you.

RUmike · 06-09-2006, 10:02 AM

Doesn't sound like BC&H to me.

MortalWombat · 06-09-2006, 10:37 AM

mmmm.... pie

xaxxat · 06-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Dammit! Adam should have gone for the apple of life pie first!

Quasimofo · 06-09-2006, 11:02 AM

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mmmm.... pie

That is ONE of the reactions I was looking for

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Dammit! Adam should have gone for the apple of life pie first!

lol, great we have people with senses of humour on these boards!

It is a BC&H in that it is relaying my opposition to the story of Adam and Eve.

hayahtowb · 06-09-2006, 07:31 PM

It was hair pie and not apple, that got Adam and Eve into trouble, after all they covered their butts not their mouths (I think I read that right). The word "touch" in Gen. 3.3 is "naga", one of the definitions is [to lie with a woman]. That tree/serpent must have looked fine.

06-09-2006, 08:39 AM	#1
Quasimofo Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 78	Pie Say you had a pie, a delicious freshly baked pie. Now let's say that this pie was a pie of apple. You tell your child "DON'T EAT THIS PIE BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU WILL SURELY DIE!". Now you know full well this won't happen but you just really don't want them touching this pie. Is this the wrong approach? NO! That's just some damn good use of scare tactics! ...Well it would have been, except you forgot that your kid doesn't know what the hell DEATH means :P. In fact it turns out this pie was magical and it was not until after your child ate the pie that they became aware of the concept of death and why stealing your pie was wrong. GOD JUST WANTED ALL THE APPLES TO HIMSELF! PS: Your child ends up living for 930 years, go figure.

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06-09-2006, 09:16 AM	#2
Chris Porter Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,360	Considering this looks much like a retelling of the garden of Eden story, I'm going to move this to Biblical Criticism and History, where I believe such things are discussed. It may more accurately belong in Moral Foundations and Principles ("is it right to tell a lie?"), but I shall leave that to the next moderator to spot this. All I can aver at this time is that this, being obviously Judeo-Christian, and not addressing philosophical issues, should move elsewhere.

06-09-2006, 09:21 AM	#3
Quasimofo Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 78	Oops, my bad, I did mean to post it in this section, thank you.

06-09-2006, 10:02 AM	#4
RUmike Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 491	Doesn't sound like BC&H to me.

06-09-2006, 10:37 AM	#5
MortalWombat Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: St Louis area Posts: 3,458	mmmm.... pie

06-09-2006, 10:53 AM	#6
xaxxat Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Space Station 33 Posts: 2,543	Dammit! Adam should have gone for the apple of life pie first!

06-09-2006, 07:31 PM	#8
hayahtowb Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: my Cave Posts: 91	It was hair pie and not apple, that got Adam and Eve into trouble, after all they covered their butts not their mouths (I think I read that right). The word "touch" in Gen. 3.3 is "naga", one of the definitions is [to lie with a woman]. That tree/serpent must have looked fine.

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