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JustinFoldsFive · 07-07-2007, 09:52 PM

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2. If you say yes, then, do you have a concrete and hard evidences for ET, to be labeled as "naturalistic" science?

ET (which is often referred to as ToE) can be considered a "naturalistic" science because it does not invoke any type of supernatural entity or process. Random mutations and natural selection are both strictly naturalistic phenomena.

_Naturalist_ · 07-07-2007, 09:53 PM

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1. Do you believe that Evolution Theory is really basing its explanation naturally?

No, but I do know it does, as far as I understand.

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I mean, is ET (Evolution Theory) really the sole natural explanation of nature?

No, it's not, and if you don't know that, then are we to expect you're going to refute it anyway? Shouldn't you understand it first?

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2. If you say yes, then, do you have a concrete and hard evidences for ET, to be labeled as "naturalistic" science?

You mean the fossil record and genetic evidence?

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I can not find one.

There's plenty described in the literature. Like you I'm not an expert, but it's still interesting to read about it.

Peez · 07-07-2007, 09:59 PM

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samurai:
I can prove it.

Go ahead.

Peez

Worldtraveller · 07-07-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by samurai

There is no bad in trying. There is also no bad in questioning old Theories and debunking them and replacing with new and logical scientific explanation.

One correct thing you've said so far. Unfortunately, this is how evolutionary theory came about. It replaced the old theory of creation.

Learn a little history.

Cheers,
Lane

Calilasseia · 07-07-2007, 10:09 PM

So this proof ... when is it coming?

And when do we get invited to your Nobel acceptance ceremony upon your publishing it?

Djugashvillain · 07-07-2007, 10:21 PM

I would think that someone who was able to prove the falsity of evolution would necessarily understand evolutionary theory and its supporting evidence better than anybody, and so have no need to ask any questions about it, especially such pedestrian ones as samurai is posing.

Worldtraveller · 07-07-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by samurai

Evolution Theory (ET) is not natural science. It is supernatural, fable, mythological, and pokemon-styled- science.

I can prove it.

Now, I am a Christian.

JetBlckNewYr03 · 07-07-2007, 10:36 PM

Wow, the OP owes me a new keyboard. I haven't laughed that hard reading a post in awhile.

Djugashvillain · 07-07-2007, 10:39 PM

It's what happens when your understanding of evolution comes from reading a cartoon place-mat at the Creation Museum diner.

someotherguy · 07-07-2007, 11:26 PM

I certainly hope that samurai hasn't gone to bed. I'm not sure I can sleep tonight, what with the cloud of earth-shattering anticipation resting over this thread.

We've all got scientific blue-balls here, samurai (metaphorically speaking, of course); make with the proofs, please!

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07-07-2007, 10:09 PM	#25
Calilasseia Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Liverpool, UK Posts: 1,072	So this proof ... when is it coming? And when do we get invited to your Nobel acceptance ceremony upon your publishing it?

07-07-2007, 10:21 PM	#26
Djugashvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 1,281	I would think that someone who was able to prove the falsity of evolution would necessarily understand evolutionary theory and its supporting evidence better than anybody, and so have no need to ask any questions about it, especially such pedestrian ones as samurai is posing.

07-07-2007, 10:36 PM	#28
JetBlckNewYr03 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southleast Posts: 1,537	Wow, the OP owes me a new keyboard. I haven't laughed that hard reading a post in awhile.

07-07-2007, 10:39 PM	#29
Djugashvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 1,281	It's what happens when your understanding of evolution comes from reading a cartoon place-mat at the Creation Museum diner.

07-07-2007, 11:26 PM	#30
someotherguy Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,836	I certainly hope that samurai hasn't gone to bed. I'm not sure I can sleep tonight, what with the cloud of earth-shattering anticipation resting over this thread. We've all got scientific blue-balls here, samurai (metaphorically speaking, of course); make with the proofs, please!

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