Chili

And the message that some Jew called Paul had was that each and every resurrected Jew goes to hell instead of heaven.

His point was that the Jew must die to set the man free, who so cannot resurrect as Jew, and if he does he is like a pig being slaughtered who forever wants more and never knows when to say: "hold it, enough is enough and I am done with religion forever and for good."

That is what the 'no pork rule' is about, because pigs get slaughtered, don't you know! . . . and that will be the same for one and for all including the Emperor of Rome, wherefore then Peter was buried headfirst under the Church, and into the ground to juxtapose that famous fishing trip when he put on the NEW cloak on called Catholic (with not a camelhair on it) and dove headfirst into the celestial sea to catch those big ones that he dragged on to Rome; herein so by allegory, those big fish now are as knowledge retained as the rock whereupon HIS Church is actually built.

Just read the difference between Matthew an Mark and Luke and John, wherein Matthew and Mark's Jesus goes back to Galilee to preach some more (for another 40 years, to be sure) while Luke and John goes to heaven instead.

And here we insist -- still with our worn-out Sunday suit on -- that resurrection is what counts so that we can walk away from it on our own, while we forget that we will either be going to heaven or hell when we do.

The short form here is: "when the ego raptures that which remains is in heaven" and we just walk away from it all on our own, without a Jesus or a bible in our right hand.

That really is all that Mark wanted to say as a naked truth exposed without any Judaism attached , and all the rest is there is to show the error that appeals to intelligence, which in itself is the temple, or TOK, that must be torn down to the very last stone.

It is our basis for Limbo that is without divine guidance (nice phrase), that so now makes Mark all pigfeed totally in the absense of the divine to serve as foreshadow of Luke wherein the metaphysics are presented to make known the workings of a comedy as opposed to Mark's tragedy, wherein God was no part the act from beginning to end.*

So indeed, there were no witnesses in Mark because his 'netherworld event' did not penetrate his own TOL where those 500 eye-witnesses were his own lineage to be exposed inside the Hypostatic Union here, or Marriage Divine between his own left and right (TOL and TOK) so he would truly know who he was.

And I have no problem with you calling it a 'Jesus cult' that is void of the 'super' and would pay homage to Voodoo long before I would agree with a Jesus cultist, even today, like Paul then, as you say (not to sound like another Paul, but to understand why he exposed the error he saw from all directions coming his way).

* Actually, Mark was equally inspired to present the error as opposite to truth so it can be a foreshadow of good times to follow.

Chili

The addition in Mk. 16 converted pig-feed to wolf-feed, now with the mandate to preach and spread the good news all over the world, based on 'blind faith' only (Magdalene cannot convert sun-rays into light on her own).

Notice that he appeard to Magdalene first, who is temple tramp inside the TOK, (lesser serpent of Gen.3:15), and those two others were of course Peter and Thomas to show that faith an doubt was still as real as ever for him. This is to be juxtaposed with "My Lord and my God" when Thomas was convinced that so defrocked Peter with no more faith left in him from that very day.

Christian Church is a contradiction terms since it was for Liberty that Christ set us free, never to set foot in that old temple again.

Communism was a different way to bring the Eastern Rite's High Culture to an end, and so without religious reform = a crunch without a crash by reform, and its 'silver age' is with them again, while we about now are short of every thing except maybe bibles and bombs.

Chili

Sweet deams, and consider that wolves are needed to nurse the lamb of God like a cuckoo bird does because they are local and know best, as also a cow bird does so it can attend to the flock that feeds her.

Chili

If for the record only, to make sure that Paul was not a Jew in the same way as Jesus Christ was not a 'resurrected Jew' must I point at the crucifixion event that annihilated only the Jew that therefore must die and be gone for at least 3 days as it was conditional only as an attribute to the being as man.

So for aa5874 to as much as suggest that Paul was a Jew and that Jesus Christ was a Jew is to actually show that he does not understand the purpose of crucifixion at all.

This in turn is why I say that a resurrected Jew did not die as still a Jew, or was stolen by his own people soon after and therefore still was a Jew and back to Galilee he will go . . . which is exactly what the precaution to Pilate was all about, and the big stone was about in response.

To this end let me say that crucifixion takes place inside the human mind as this is where the Jew in him must die, and Yes, that can easy take 3 days, and besides, that is when our own netherworld also known as our soul will be explored so that a Cana event will have our own lineage in attendance soon after. Or . . . haven't you heard of Hardy's "Voices from the Graveyard" maybe?

So my line then that each an every Jew who is crucified and still is a Jew will go to hell makes reference only to self induced crucifixion events, wherein the Jew is meant to remain, now as in "'I Am' a Jew," much like "My Name is Asher Lev" and still a Jew.

Oh, and then hell was made known when heaven on earth became known simply because, in a pair of opposites one cannot be conceived to exist without the other to be known as well.