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Originally Posted by redzrx
In regards to your last statement.
I have gone to bible studies with a christian friend of mine and that is the way it is taught. They show you the passages and how you are suppose to understand them in relation to jesus. There is no divine intervention on the reader(or student). (you wanted to believe going in)
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I was not actually taught about it. One of the apostles/disciples quote it in reference to Christ's suffering. And then I learned other things myself. I believe only God give knowledge.
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Remember Isa was written 700 years before christ. The jews were under either egyptian, assyrian or babalonian and later roman rule their whole existence, they were wanting their own land with a rightous king for centuries. They wanted that king to lead them in battle(with yahweh) against their oppressors.The servant story is a journey of a oppressed,beaten people who thru their faith in god and a rightous king can overcome thier oppressors and show the rest of the world(gentile) that they are chosen people and that yahweh is the true god. Sort of a nah nah .. told you so attitude.
Mario
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I will look again unto what you are saying, regarding all the verses you mentioned. Actually, I have been reading Isa years back and I learned from it that Israel is promised of a righteous king. I believed the righteous king to be the Messiah. When the Messiah came, Israel misunderstood the coming of the Messiah, and other prophesies, nor of their salvation, and especially the Godhead, thus they rejected the Messiah. But , as I said, let me look it up again. I hope I will not be busy.
I am too sleepy, and too tired too tonight. I cannot think for now.