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Old 10-06-2009, 03:47 AM   #1
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Just when you thought things could not get any weirder. Take a look:
via: Bible for the Right.

I am all for faithful translation, and a higher reading level baseline. But some how I think an ideologically driven Bible that de-Yahweh's the OT and seeks to redefine the word "word" is more hoot-fest than biblical colonic.

They are planing to take out the "the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story." What will they do with the end of Mark, Liberal or not Liberal?

They are taking submissions, maybe this is your chance to get in the Bible! Me, I'm retranslating this line as: "The poor will always be with us, you betcha'!

Your ideas welcome, how do we rid the Bible of later Liberal bias, and when did those pesky Liberals corrupt scripture? Scribal academic left wing bias? Marginal snark later incorporated into the text? You decide.


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Poe's Law? This is a Conservapedia project
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Just when you thought things could not get any weirder. Take a look:
via: Bible for the Right.

I am all for faithful translation, and a higher reading level baseline. But some how I think an ideologically driven Bible that de-Yahweh's the OT and seeks to redefine the word "word" is more hoot-fest than biblical colonic.

They are planing to take out the "the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story." What will they do with the end of Mark, Liberal or not Liberal?

They are taking submissions, maybe this is your chance to get in the Bible! Me, I'm retranslating this line as: "The poor will always be with us, you betcha'!

Your ideas welcome, how do we rid the Bible of later Liberal bias, and when did those pesky Liberals corrupt scripture? Scribal academic left wing bias? Marginal snark later incorporated into the text? You decide.


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Of course they will have to take out the adultress story; it makes Jesus look bad, real bad, as if Matthew hasn't done that already. It makes Christianity look like what it is/was; a boys club. A violent boys club.

That it is a violent boys club is evidenced in the original ending of Mark. It will be interesting to see if they remove the interpolations in Mark. If not, it is simply added proof that it remains a boys club of violent men.

It then seems to me that they can't win for losing. If they take out the late ending, why are the women afraid?

And what are they going to do with the Jesus of Matthew who came to make life more miserable, harsh, and nasty? Will Christians once again put burqas on women to save men from going to hell?
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Why does the end of Mark show Christianity to be a 'violent boys club?'
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Why does the end of Mark show Christianity to be a 'violent boys club?'
It is not just the ending of Mark, it is the whole book, especially the writings of Paul. Paul is a very violent man, and encourages violence against women.

Now you have asked, why does the end of Mark show Christianity to be a violent boys club..............

To which I will reply:

So that I will know the truth, so that the truth will set me free.

It will be interesting to see if conservative Christians will stick to the original ending of Mark, in that they want to take out other passages that they do not consider original. If they do not take out the latter additions to Mark, it will go to their credibility.

Let me ask you this in regards to the woman caught in adultery; why didn't Jesus ask about the man that she had been allegedly caught in adultery with?

Why didn't the Pharisees bring the man to Jesus to be judged as well?

If they caught the woman in the act, as is implied/alleged, where is the man? Was he able to run faster than the woman? If so why didn't the author say so?

If Jesus were a fair man, why didn't he ask about the adultering man?

Does Jesus have exray vision and he saw the man run away, so he didn't bother to ask?

On what evidence did Jesus judge the woman? Does he now trust the Pharisees? Are they now credible? Am I supposed to now trust the Pharisees, etc., as well?

How am I to know when I can trust them and when I can't?

One minute Jesus hates them, the next they are bosom buddies...........
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Just when you thought things could not get any weirder. Take a look:
via: Bible for the Right.

I am all for faithful translation, and a higher reading level baseline. But some how I think an ideologically driven Bible that de-Yahweh's the OT and seeks to redefine the word "word" is more hoot-fest than biblical colonic.

They are planing to take out the "the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story." What will they do with the end of Mark, Liberal or not Liberal?

They are taking submissions, maybe this is your chance to get in the Bible! Me, I'm retranslating this line as: "The poor will always be with us, you betcha'!

Your ideas welcome, how do we rid the Bible of later Liberal bias, and when did those pesky Liberals corrupt scripture? Scribal academic left wing bias? Marginal snark later incorporated into the text? You decide.


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Don't forget the fact that they are using the "liberal" King James version. Damn you Shakespeare! (or whoever)
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Why does the end of Mark show Christianity to be a 'violent boys club?'
It is not just the ending of Mark, it is the whole book, especially the writings of Paul. Paul is a very violent man, and encourages violence against women.

Now you have asked, why does the end of Mark show Christianity to be a violent boys club..............

To which I will reply:

So that I will know the truth, so that the truth will set me free.

It will be interesting to see if conservative Christians will stick to the original ending of Mark, in that they want to take out other passages that they do not consider original. If they do not take out the latter additions to Mark, it will go to their credibility.

Let me ask you this in regards to the woman caught in adultery; why didn't Jesus ask about the man that she had been allegedly caught in adultery with?

Why didn't the Pharisees bring the man to Jesus to be judged as well?

If they caught the woman in the act, as is implied/alleged, where is the man? Was he able to run faster than the woman? If so why didn't the author say so?

If Jesus were a fair man, why didn't he ask about the adultering man?

Does Jesus have exray vision and he saw the man run away, so he didn't bother to ask?

On what evidence did Jesus judge the woman? Does he now trust the Pharisees? Are they now credible? Am I supposed to now trust the Pharisees, etc., as well?

How am I to know when I can trust them and when I can't?

One minute Jesus hates them, the next they are bosom buddies...........
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Just when you thought things could not get any weirder. Take a look:
via: Bible for the Right.
I didn't see any links from this "report" -- more a jeer -- to the sources of their information; only links to other sites which were also jeering. This isn't reportage.

Even from the material supposedly quoted (without attribution or indication of authorship) I can see that the objective is to resist corruption, not introduce it; and some bits of that material look as if someone has decided to troll what is said to be a wiki.

If we propose to discuss someone, and still more attack them, let's do it honestly and for views they hold, rather than ones attributed to them by their enemies. I don't find that http://www.ihatehobbitskillthefurryl...sdiediedie.com is a reliable source of information on hobbits, for instance. To do otherwise is to invite contempt from the honest, surely?

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