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Old 06-03-2007, 12:30 PM   #81
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That is false. The Bible says in at least two places that it is inerrant. That is an original assertion. He who asserts first must defend first. Skeptics who debate inerrancy are responding to PRIOR claims by Christians that the Bible is inerrant.
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Not by the church.
Well, you said "Nobody has asserted inerrancy," and I proved that you are wrong. You never said anything about a church, and neither did anyone else.

What in the world do churches have to do with some Christians asserting that the Bible is inerrant? When I replied to Praxeus regarding his claim that the Bible is inerrant, I did not mention anything about the church that he attends, nor did he.
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That is false. The Bible says in at least two places that it is inerrant. That is an original assertion. He who asserts first must defend first. Skeptics who debate inerrancy are responding to PRIOR claims by Christians that the Bible is inerrant.
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Not by the church.
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Well, you said "Nobody has asserted inerrancy," and I proved that you are wrong.
Yes, you deserve a medal.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:38 PM   #83
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What in the world do churches have to do with some Christians asserting that the Bible is inerrant?
The man in the wilderness askéd me
"How many strawberries grow in the sea?"
And I answered him as I thought good,
"As many as red herrings grow in the wood."
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That's the standard Christian view, as found in the words of Jesus as apparently recorded.
Where exactly is this recorded? Would my guess "the original Greek scriptures" be right?
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That's the standard Christian view, as found in the words of Jesus as apparently recorded.
Where exactly is this recorded? Would my guess "the original Greek scriptures" be right?
In manuscripts written in Greek, believed to be the language of the autographs, yes.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:30 PM   #86
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Closeau: In your listing it seems to me that you have eliminated most of the Christian churches I have heard of. What church are you referring to that has not claimed biblical inerrancy? The Catholics?
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Closeau: In your listing it seems to me that you have eliminated most of the Christian churches I have heard of. What church are you referring to that has not claimed biblical inerrancy? The Catholics?
All mainstream Protestant denominations as well as a host of independents hold to Biblical inerrancy in their statements of faith, and require with somewhat variable levels of insistence their members to adhere to it. Roman Catholics are very insistent on inerrancy (they have to be, since they claim their authority from a single sentence in Matthew) though they add their own supposed authority to the Bible's that wrecks the whole idea, in the view of Protestants. The Orthodox also generally hold to inerrancy, though, like their beards, they are pretty fuzzy about how the Bible is to be interpreted- by themselves, of course.

Denominations are really very little to do with Christianity, though. The real church is invisible, and its members invariably recognise the Bible as inerrant, and aim to live by that.
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In manuscripts written in Greek, believed to be the language of the autographs, yes.
but not the originals.
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Not the originals.
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Not the originals.
Copies of copies, not of the originals, that you have no problem translating, of course... Amazing.
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