snapchamp

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

please visit this link and scroll halfway down for a very easy to read chart that eerily compares the stories of the egyptian god horus and jesus.

i would love to hear a theists opinions on this


of every argument i have ever heard trying to discredit or validate christianity, this is the strongest so far! enjoy

Phlox Pyros

I'm afraid you or someone else would have to provide primary sources (ie. the ancient texts) that actually manifest these supposed similarities before many here would accept them at face value (especially so many).

snapchamp

ok, ok, but let's just say that these parallels are confirmed by the ancient texts (i will work on that for you, but in the meantime...). how, if at all, does this change your thinking-assuming of course that the link i provided is valid. do you find it interesting? does it make you want to do more research on the subject?

Her pinkness saves

nothing new for me, but i doubt it will change many creationists minds.

the only evidence they accept is the kind you cant send over the internet, and their to lazy to go to the library when you list books for them.
(in my experiances, of course)

Phlox Pyros

Things like this always make me want to do more research!

I have seen these types of claims made many times (most of them false), but for some reason the linguistic evidence in their favor never materializes.

Toto

If you search for Harpur in this forum, you will find a lot of prior discussion on this. Unfortunately, Harpur does not rely on the best of scholarship.

There are many more valid objections to Christianity. I am at a loss to understand the popularity of this one.

Phlox Pyros

It may have to do with the fact that the author of the comparison tables went to the utmost lengths to make the comparisons look as similar as humanly possible. I guess most people would just go, "Oh...wow...look at how similar those are!"

However, most here would look at them and go, "Oh...wow, how absurd...they compared Herut to Herod!" (among many other absurdities listed on the site).

Chris Weimer

Many of the more favorable objections to Christianity usually require specialization and whatnot. Actually, these types of arguments tend to hurt our position rather than help it. I would urge that everyone fight tooth and nail against Harpur, Archaya S, Freke and Gandy, Baigant, and the likes.

See, this doesn't even make sense to me. Herod is an actual attested figure even without the Christian stories. Baffles my mind how some people just shut down all mental faculties when they're so blinded by prejudice.

Toto

I don't think that the people who follow Tom Harpur are blinded by prejudice. I think they positively want Jesus to be Horus. But I can't figure out why.

Diogenes the Cynic

There are also some in inaccuracies on the Jesus side of the ledger. Matthew doesn't say there were "three wise men," for instance, it just gives an unspecified number of magi. Also, none of the Gospels say that Jesus descended to Hell. Luke actually has Jesus say he's going to be in Paradise that same day. If the Jesus material is tweaked in such a way, I can only imagine what has been done with the Horus material, and like others have said, when it comes to tracking down primary sources for these kinds of comparisons, they;re kind of hard to come by.