badger3k

You know, this is really pathetic. It does come from growing up in a culture where such a thing is a swear word. If I had grown up in a muslim culture, I might say Mighty Allah, or something similar, even if I had no belief in such a thing. I do routinely use "gods", "by the gods", "odin's beard", and a few more for variety. Since I believe in none of them, there is no taking anything in vain. Add in that there are differences of opinions as to what that actually means (such as it really refers to using it in oaths, etc), and the whole thing is idiotic.

Interjections tend to come out in times of stress, and our minds fall back into familiar patterns, and we say what we are used to. I also say "f-me" and "f-me running" and believe me when I say that I do not literally mean that, so the idea that atheists are seeking help is ludicrous. I never thought that when I said "God damn it" when I was a Christian that I really wanted ol' YHVH to actually curse or send someone to hell. It was just an expression.
:huh:

badger3k

Christ on a camel!
Jesus' Tits!
Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish!


Damn, I guess I secretly believe in all of those, or else do I make them up when I say their name, indicating that they all really do exist only in my mind?

Hmmm

badger3k

Talk about missing the boat. You didn't answer the question. How do you know you are walking the correct path has nothing to do with how hard you work. Try to answer the question, please, as we are all curious. How do you know?
The second "how do you know" question was not answered either. We have seen hundreds of Christians (and other religions) who answer the same as you. They all claim to be following the laws of their religions, and they all claim that they are interpreting it all correctly, but none of you can actually give any evidence that you are correct. Just a lot of assertions. What evidence do you have that can tell us that you are correct and everybody else is wrong?

badger3k

Sorry for multiple posts like this, but I'm trying to catch up. This caught my eye:
Wrong. Sorry, but not even the maximalists (that I am aware of) think there was a Jewish land as far back as that. All the evidence we have found indicates that the Israelites/Judahites were indiginous canaanites (possibly living on the fringes as semi-nomadic people) and there was no conquest. There are many excellent books (and papers in the scholarly journals) that give this information. The one that comes to the top of my head was William Dever's "Who were the early Israelites and where did they come from" (I think). Dever is no minimalist, but he does show that archaeology has dispelled many of the myths about the supposed "history" of Israel and Judah.

The other point is that ol YHVH promised the entirety of the land, and this simply did not happen. There was no huge kingdom stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates, unless YHVH also missed the boat and meant Alexander the Great and his followers as his chosen people. That would explain much, though.

Johnny Skeptic

Well, if the God of the Bible does not exist, and no other possible God intervenes directly in human affairs, that would explain why everything that happens happens naturally. Some examples are that the Gospel message has been spread entirely by word of mouth, at least as far as we know, and if a man is hungry, certainly no God is going to personally give him food to eat, at least as far as we know. I am not aware of any good reasons why a loving God would claim that he cares about people, but force people to try to meet all of their tangible needs on their own.

What you propose is the existence of a God who wants people to hear the Gospel message, but only if another person tells them about it, and who wants people to have enough food to eat, but only if they are able to obtain food through human effort. That does not make any sense. If a human acted like that, you would reject him. The most logical answer is that the God of the Bible does not exist.

Derec

Russia/USSR was never referred to as the "iron curtain". The "iron curtain" is a metaphor for the boundary between Warsaw Pact and the free Europe, not a moniker for lands beyond it.

There are prophecy peddlers who claim that the reason US is not mentioned in the prophecies is that it will collapse before the End Times. And since the End Times are "nigh", the end of the US is even more imminent...

Persia and modern Iran have a pretty good correspondence and the Supreme Leader is pretty much kinglike. A prophecy does not have to fail on all counts to be absolutely bogus, you know.

Derec

Santa is just dyslexic for Satan. :devil1:

Derec

Same logic as Josephus telling Vespasian he was the Messiah.

WVIncagold

If someone celebrates a federal holiday without invoking any dieties.....its secular. I know we celebrate Saternalia all the time. No god needed. Especially since your religion stole it from my pagan fore fathers. I would of bet you even had a Christams tree in your house. only 612 more commandments to go though.

I have always wondered why christains celebrate secular holidays..... i find it baffling. :banghead:

Its not steeped in tradition. You religion broke a commandment and stole a relgion from another culture and then try to claim it as your own.

That is only because of the atrocities contained with in the bible mind you

as do you apparently


We do do we? any proof of that? Hey isnt there a story about a guy who was going to sacrifice whis own son.... which book did that story come from....Hey several times in the bible! Wow its amazing we survived as a race considering the wickedness of the 98% of the world who were not jews and the later ursurpers the christians. How did we ever survive with all the killing of children and kitten stews. I tell you such a life.

By the way. ATEIST ARE NOT PAGANS! Pagans believe in gods, multiples ones. You are closer to a pagan than an atheist is. Atheism does not believe in a diety. thats it. when we celebrate our cultures customs and holidays its a form of getting together and enjoying family over a nice roaring fire made of puppies and enjoy kitten eggnnog.:Cheeky:

WVIncagold

Refreshing

So you do not wshave the side of your head or the chin? YOu worship on Saturday?

Yet you continually have no problem when you put words in atheist mouths?

So you keep all 613 comandments? Wow you do better than Jesus himself.

Well thats just because other people have been here before you claiming just the opposite. see our quandry. How is one able to figure out who the true christian is?
Many different prophecy lovers have come here and each one of you have had a different "take" on prophecy. How can one possibly understand something so important when the teachers all have a different syllabus?