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Old 11-16-2011, 06:45 AM   #1
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Caligula called himself the brother of Jupiter.

If only he had called himself the brother of the Lord Jupiter, this would have been overwhelming evidence for the historical existence of the Lord Jupiter, on a scale that it would be approaching creationism to deny.

Just ask Bart Ehrman, or wait for his new book. Somebody who styles himself the brother of the Lord clearly has a historical brother known as the Lord.

It is a smoking gun which blows mythicism out of the water.

But Caligula omitted any claim that Jupiter was the Lord. Hence there is no smoking gun pointing to the historical existence of Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is a myth and Jesus isn't.

You lose again , mythicists.
Sorry sir but just the opposite is true as a pair of opposites cannot be conceived to exist without the other and here we do argue from opposites so the slippery slope is not available for believers or doubters and so truth will stand on its own. This is not theology Steven where warping is the name of the game.

Be it known that when Jesus rose to heaven hell came crashing down to us on earth and that is why he had a brother to make that known to us and his name was James, presenting the tragedy side of Jesus' journey in Matthew and Mark who's tragedy is really a failed divine comedy in that the rising action and crisis moment are much the same to even the resurrection which has to be there to make the difference known to us.

Crucial here then is the 3 days he spend underground which so may be called 'inaction' lest we go by appearances but that is when he went into his own soul and there set free the captives that bound him to get him this far and so loosed himself as predestined to reach the end. These would be the persistend devils (Mephis in WE) and now must be free from these by way of understanding and hence his journey right back to God in Luke . . . which is not there to show us how fucken 'great he was' but 'how free' he was in the end.

A failed Divive Comedy is often presented as a Senecan tragedy (Titus Andronicus and more politely Macbeth) and we all know how gory they are and some may wish to call them Greek Tragdies but I am not familiar with them . . . but who in their turn also cannot be conveived to exist with there being the opposite in a comedy there first.
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Caligula called himself the brother of Jupiter.

If only he had called himself the brother of the Lord Jupiter, this would have been overwhelming evidence for the historical existence of the Lord Jupiter, on a scale that it would be approaching creationism to deny.

Just ask Bart Ehrman, or wait for his new book. Somebody who styles himself the brother of the Lord clearly has a historical brother known as the Lord.

It is a smoking gun which blows mythicism out of the water.

But Caligula omitted any claim that Jupiter was the Lord. Hence there is no smoking gun pointing to the historical existence of Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is a myth and Jesus isn't.

You lose again , mythicists.
Sorry sir but just the opposite is true as a pair of opposites cannot be conceived to exist without the other and here we do argue from opposites so the slippery slope is not available for believers or doubters and so truth will stand on its own. This is not theology Steven where warping is the name of the game.

Be it known that when Jesus rose to heaven hell came crashing down to us on earth and that is why he had a brother to make that known to us and his name was James, presenting the tragedy side of Jesus' journey in Matthew and Mark who's tragedy is really a failed divine comedy in that the rising action and crisis moment are much the same to even the resurrection which has to be there to make the difference known to us.

Crucial here then is the 3 days he spend underground which so may be called 'inaction' lest we go by appearances but that is when he went into his own soul and there set free the captives that bound him to get him this far and so loosed himself as predestined to reach the end. These would be the persistend devils (Mephis in WE) and now must be free from these by way of understanding and hence his journey right back to God in Luke . . . which is not there to show us how fucken 'great he was' but 'how free' he was in the end.

A failed Divive Comedy is often presented as a Senecan tragedy (Titus Andronicus and more politely Macbeth) and we all know how gory they are and some may wish to call them Greek Tragdies but I am not familiar with them . . . but who in their turn also cannot be convceived to exist without there being the opposite in a comedy first.
Edited to change 'with' to 'without' in the last line just before bolding, and maybe to add that that was the reason the why Jews did not really know what hell was all about.
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Caligula called himself the brother of the supreme Roman God; this was a sign of his madness.

Could Paul have been making the same sort of dig at James?
The Pauline writings are a PACK of LIES.

The Pauline writer claimed Jesus was NOT a man, that he did NOT get his gospel from man, that he WITNESSED the resurrected Jesus and that he was a FALSE witness if the dead rise NOT.

See Galatians 1.1-12 and 1 Cor.15.15

The dead rise not.

The Pauline writer is a LIAR. He was not mad. He simply LIED for the Glory of God.
Jesus was not a man as it was Joseph who was pregant with dispair and his very own woman [called Mary] led him as if by the nose with her TOL in charge of the TOK and so to his mind as a child and there gave birth to the Chirst-child within.

Paul was an inspired mythmaker with fish he caugt on the other side of his mind for his new Religion in Rome that so is and will always be beyond critics like you who's major is wrong and so the conclusion does not match the major for you. This is called a First Order Enthymeme and excellenct here . . . IOW (you fill in the blank yourself).

. . . and in case you wonder, Peter was the faith of Paul and he caugth those fish on the first post resurrection fishing trip of John 21 and moved to Rome where Peter became the seat of Paul as first pope instead of pope and co-pope.
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Caligula called himself the brother of the supreme Roman God; this was a sign of his madness.

Could Paul have been making the same sort of dig at James?
The Pauline writings are a PACK of LIES.

The Pauline writer claimed Jesus was NOT a man, that he did NOT get his gospel from man, that he WITNESSED the resurrected Jesus and that he was a FALSE witness if the dead rise NOT.

See Galatians 1.1-12 and 1 Cor.15.15

The dead rise not.

The Pauline writer is a LIAR. He was not mad. He simply LIED for the Glory of God.
Jesus was not a man as it was Joseph who was pregant with dispair and his very own woman [called Mary] led him as if by the nose with her TOL in charge of the TOK and so to his mind as a child and there gave birth to the Chirst-child within.

Paul was an inspired mythmaker with fish he caugt on the other side of his mind for his new Religion in Rome that so is and will always be beyond critics like you who's major is wrong and so the conclusion does not match the major for you. This is called a First Order Enthymeme and excellenct here . . . IOW (you fill in the blank yourself).

. . . and in case you wonder, Peter was the faith of Paul and he caugth those fish on the first post resurrection fishing trip of John 21 and moved to Rome where Peter became the seat of Paul as first pope instead of pope and co-pope.
To be more succinct, Paul sacked the fish that Peter caught as the new cloak of Peter, and Peter was defrocked with no faith left in Judaism when Thomas' doubt was removed with the exclamation "My Lord and my God." Ie. No doubt = no faith and so no longer twins in opposites that left Peter naked and Thomas go 'poof' when Peter walked on the water. So here then we have the material cause for the existence and papacy of Paul.

John was the man as they cannot both be man with only one einai (essence) and thus Jesus was the hubris left behind on the cross.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:23 AM   #5
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Jesus was not a man as it was Joseph who was pregant with dispair and his very own woman [called Mary] led him as if by the nose with her TOL in charge of the TOK and so to his mind as a child and there gave birth to the Chirst-child within.

Paul was an inspired mythmaker with fish he caugt on the other side of his mind for his new Religion in Rome that so is and will always be beyond critics like you who's major is wrong and so the conclusion does not match the major for you. This is called a First Order Enthymeme and excellenct here . . . IOW (you fill in the blank yourself).

. . . and in case you wonder, Peter was the faith of Paul and he caugth those fish on the first post resurrection fishing trip of John 21 and moved to Rome where Peter became the seat of Paul as first pope instead of pope and co-pope.
To be more succinct, Paul sacked the fish that Peter caught as the new cloak of Peter, and Peter was defrocked with no faith left in Judaism when Thomas' doubt was removed with the exclamation "My Lord and my God." Ie. No doubt = no faith and so no longer twins in opposites that left Peter naked and Thomas go 'poof' when Peter walked on the water. So here then we have the material cause for the existence and papacy of Paul.

John was the man as they cannot both be man with only one einai (essence) and thus Jesus was the hubris left behind on the cross.
Oh yes, I should add that it is called menopause today wherein the menses come to final cessation (menses is persona), which here came just a bit earlier than normal making Joseph a good patron saint of the family and like Nietzsche's tiger indeed, or was that a lion? I forgot.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:40 AM   #6
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. . . let me introduce you to a painting that shows what I am writing about and please notice Mary and St. John thriumphant at the foot of the cross.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Trinity_(Masaccio)
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