Chili

It looks like an intricate weave to me wherein the four gospels are trying to tell us us somenting instead of we trying to tell it something with all 20,000 of us.

Oh, and so now the yeast factory is calling it a forgery factory?

Chili

Aristotle had this change of vision from hyletic to telec, to lyric to noetic and that is what they are all about. Ever heard of that?

Duvduv

Sorry Chili. I don't understand you most of the time anyway.

Chili

Really?

Chili

It has nothing to do with tradition as the Gospels were new and the inspiration was just one fishing trip.

Do you realize that metaphysics is much more reliable than physics and simple math above all? It has nothing to do with thinking, or dreaming but simple and sheer omniscience.

Duvduv

Sorry, I don't follow you again.
But I can emphasize the similiarities between Matthew and Luke, but they are not identical. Presumably they had similar sources of "traditions." I am not sure I see how Luke actually used Matthew. So many of the stories are similar in theme, but yet quite different in content.

Chili

There was only one tradition and was the prevailing error of scripture reading that was called manna and not Manna as you spell it, as those were passages that were second hand to them from Moses and those 'ordained by Moses' who 'parted the water' to get into the promised land instead of walking on top of that water to get there.

There is one passage in John (5:39) that is 1000 times more important than "you must be born again" wherein it says that "[you] search the Scriptures (capital S) in which you think you have eternal life- they testify on my behalf. 40, Yet you are unwilling to come to me to possess that life." And 'unwilling' here is from believe = be-lief = be willing. Note then in John 6 manna is not spelled with a capital m and if it is capital M in your bible you better burn it before it burns you.

Nobody knows that passage but everybody knows 'you must be born again' because that is where the evangelist can create action by striking the shepherd (kundalini) and so hit the petuitary and send people humming or cheering, or slain in the spirit, or to a mental institution for others, and shit like that. They will be those who scatter the sheep as is shown in Matthew and Mark. Please understand that only the mind has feeling and not the dick, and so the good feeling he gives you is is playing a trick on your mind as in 'partly tearing the veil' between your left and your right brain and so tearing the 'essence of hymen' that you maintain with your integrity and so can be called rape . . . and this then is what circumcision for Jews is all about (or they would just rip a nail of, for example, and brand them that way).

Jesus tells us that this is also called spiritual fornication or comitting the sin against the HS and is just metaphysics and as simple as that.

They'll be singing "I've seen the light' and stuff like that, and are charismatic in evidence of that, and some here religions want, and demand, evidence like that, which now means that unless you are 'fucked in the head' you are not a Christain" and those then are the ones that will tell you straight out that Catholics are not saved. I think they call this 'fruits or signs of the spirit' and glossolalia then is the first one and so they will act funny like a rooster who had just laid an egg.

You must have seen these shows on TV and that is what motivates these people. So that was the prevailing mood that Jesus tried to change and hence his 'bread of life' juxtaposition was made. Subsequently the iota had to be inserted to make crucifixion a metaphysical event only, and it likely took a couple hundred years to get that enforced in Common law and that is what Eusebius was all about . . . still against prevailing tradition wherein they now stood condemned as heretics.

J-D

What, you mean you do understand Chili some of the time?

Chili

Not that hard to follow J-D or just watch TV sometime and see what that is all about. It is soo easy to see that there is something not normal there. I have a neighbor boy who got zapped and is in a mental institution these days and nobody blames the evangelist. It was 'his sin' they say, and he was a nice kid too, but just 16 with a speeding ticket he could not pay.

Duvduv

It ia exceedingly rare that I understand him.