Sheshonq

No it doesn't. Alexander is not mentioned anywhere.

Written after the fact does not mean "self-fulfilled".

Actually, one of the clues that Daniel dates from 2nd cnetury instead of 5th century is that he makes many mistakes about 5th century events, but his description of 2nd century events is far more accurate.

arnoldo

That's the same rubbish that the Neoplatonic philosopher Porphyry wrote.

spin

sugarhitman,

As you tended to avoid much of what I wrote on this subject in the earlier thread, please answer each of these questions.

1. Why were all the other Phoenician cities built on island, but you think Tyre, which was founded by Sidon, was not?
2. Why would the central city of Tyre be on the land if there was an island off the coast that they could inhabit and thus be safer from siege?
3. Why does Hiram king of Tyre say to Solomon, "do thou take care to procure us corn for this timber, which we stand in need of, because we inhabit in an island"? (Josephus, AJ 8.2.7. See also 8.6.3)
4. Why does Josephus tell us that Hiram "raised banks at the eastern parts of the city, and enlarged it; he also joined the temple of Jupiter Olympius, which stood before in an island by itself, to the city, by raising a causeway between them", Contra Apion 1.17, if Tyre was on the mainland?
5. Where were "Old Tyre"'s harbors?
6. Why did Shalmaneser V, Sennacherib and Ashurbanipal each besiege Tyre a few decades after the other, if they had each conquered the city and dominated it? Was it not because Tyre was an island and it came to an accord with each king from the safety of that island?
7. What did Nebuchadnezzar do against the inhabitants of the island for the 13 years?
8. Why does Ezekiel say, "King Nebuchadnezzar made his army labor hard against Tyre... yet neither he nor his army got anything from Tyre to pay for the labor he expended against it", 29:18?
9. Why does Ezekiel refer to the mainland possessions connected to Tyre as the "daughters on the land", if "Old Tyre" was on land?
10. Why does Ezekiel refer to Tyre as being in the midst of the sea, 27:32, if it was not an island?

Thank you.


spin

Sheshonq

1. It happens to be true [i.e., Daniel made lots of mistakes about 5th century events and fewer mistakes about 2nd century events]. It is also what most reputable bible scholars will tell you.

2. Cutting and pasting information about Neoplatonic philosophy - when you don't understand what it's talking about - is kind of risky for you.

spin

You are not answering my question. You said:

The Dead Sea Scrolls have absolutely proved that Daniel wrote about Greece/Alexander the Great two hundred years before these events happened.

Please explain how, ie how "[t]he Dead Sea Scrolls have absolutely proved that Daniel wrote about Greece/Alexander the Great two hundred years before these events happened."

If you still don't understand the task asked of you, please ask for clarification.


spin

arnoldo

Could you please list what the "many mistakes about 5th century events are" and specifically relate them to specific prophecies in the book of Daniel?

Sheshonq

As soon as you support your other claims about Tyre, Israel and fulfilled prophecy, the Dead Sea Scrolls allegedly supporting Daniel, etc. etc. etc.

As soon as you do all that, THEN - and only then - will you be in a position to ask other people for evidence.

You have such a weak ability to stay focused on the topic at hand that I'm not about to let you open a new can of worms here, when you haven't even addressed all the topics you brought up so far.

spin

If Sheshonq hasn't, I have a list ready and waiting for you. But this is a case of quid pro quo, as Hannibal Lecter once rightly put it. You already have a lot of answers to supply, arnoldo, caro mio. Give and you will receive.


spin

arnoldo

Ok, just so I'm understanding you claim that the Book of Daniel acurately portrays events that happened in the 2nd century? How do you explain that it also explains events that occured during the Roman Empire after the 2nd century?

spin

It doesn't. When you've answered the questions you still have to, present your case and I'll shoot it down for you.


spin