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Vinnie · 05-15-2004, 07:56 PM

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No, Vinnie, I'm leaving you to your [insult edited]. Such research died before it was born. And you've got to be kidding, doing your thing without control over the original language, always victim of the translator's whims. I've already had dealings with the hysterical jesusers and other dullards on x-squawk. History is beyond them ([insult edited]). [insult edited] yes there are a few more stimulatinglings, but few and busy.

I'm back to the scrolls and their background, though if I get the day off and a connection I may be back to keep [insult edited] in check.

spin

Trying to read your post with all those [insult edited] lines is like putting a jigaw puzzle together. At any rate, I find it humorous how you dismiss all scholarship yet fail to actually dialogue with them when invited to. Instead you offer a rant and dismissing insults.

Vinnie

spin · 05-16-2004, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie

Trying to read your post with all those [insult edited] lines is like putting a jigaw puzzle together. At any rate, I find it humorous how you dismiss all scholarship yet fail to actually dialogue with them when invited to. Instead you offer a rant and dismissing insults.

I had fun writing it, Vinnie, so it wasn't rant. Dismissive insults? Dismissive, yes. If they are accurate they aren't insults, unless the truth is insulting.

I have dialogued with them (the umm "serious scholarship"

), found them hollow at the core, dismissive of evidence, prone to packaging popular opinion as fact, the furthest prepared to go being Griesbach, and I have moved to a more history enabled field, the Dead Sea Scrolls, a field in which I may rail against the lack of historical expertise of the reclaimers, but in which I also find a lot more scope for history.

But you run along and play with your unanchored relative chronology. It's anchored in your mind, just like the Jesus was gay idea. Too bad neither has anything to do with reality. It's understandable that you've never been able to present a case for your outrageous claims, happily thinking you can rest on the laurels of a millennium of opinions and apology.

spin

Clivedurdle · 05-16-2004, 04:10 AM

There is a start of a discussion about where Jesus went here!

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=83114

The reviews of Martin Palmer the Jesus Sutras at Amazon are worth reading!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...ternetinfidels

catalyst · 05-16-2004, 07:55 AM

I had no idea that my simple question would spawn all of this.

Thank you all for replying.

Vinnie · 05-16-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by catalyst

I had no idea that my simple question would spawn all of this.

Thank you all for replying.

Don't mind spin and I, we seem to like to rhetorical joust with one another

Toto · 05-16-2004, 11:46 AM

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The reviews of Martin Palmer the Jesus Sutras at Amazon are worth reading!

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One of those cultures was the most powerful and advanced civilization in the world--Tang China--but which was also steeped in a retro-shamanic faith known as Taoism.

Retro-shamanic? Sounds like the latest fashion craze in LA.

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While bearing clear resemblance to traditional Christianity, differences, and what one may call advances, are also apparent--for instance, original sin becomes the goodness of original nature.

I think I like the retro part.

But other reviews downgrade the historical accuracy. Maybe Vork can comment.

CX · 05-17-2004, 03:05 PM

...only stupid people like those who think Jesus went to china.

Vinnie · 05-17-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CX

...only stupid people like those who think Jesus went to china.

The old adage I learned while reading some physics material:

If you ask a stupid question you may feel stupid but if you don't ask a stupid question you remain stupid.

Vinnie

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CX Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portlandish Posts: 2,829	There are no stuid questions... ...only stupid people like those who think Jesus went to china.

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