Clivedurdle

NAZ

Um, this topic is a matter of life and death....

Hedshaker

So Allah knew all along? And even had contigency plans..... that's a relief :jump:

...... so who was the creater of all things again?

Orbit

Triple Six

Congratulations, your most ridiculous poll yet.

Did allah know 14 centuries ago that there would be a no islamic nations with a comparable standard of living to the world's leading ones in that respect? If yes then why do millions of muslims live in poverty compared to those that reject his sick message?

Not_O-K

What would become of this question if a cure has been found this afternoon, to be announced in tomorrow's news? This poll would then have the same validity as one asking "Did any else other than Allah know about gonorrhea (or some other curable disease) fourteen centuries back?"

If Allah is all-knowing, then the question of what he/she/it does not know is moot!

...is there a thread that discusses the question of the need for dogma to frequently be exclusive? If religion is supposed to save us, then why are so many religious people looking for rationale, such as this, that leaves others unsaved.

I'd rather ask the a question like: "If Allah knew fourteen centuries back that my spouse would have cheated on me and infected me with HIV, why did he allow us to get married?" Furthermore, it would seem that much of the civil strife (regardless of fault) in the Muslim world might stand to do just as much damage as HIV to other populations of the world.

Stop looking for a way to justify your beleifs over others and just practice them. This is not a islamic (notice the lower case...) question. This is a question of whether or not Muslims have special protection from HIV simply because they are Muslim, which, is silly because plenty of non-Muslims (including atheists) won't ever be infected with HIV. How will we explain their so-called "protection?"

saeedalyousuf

Some of the possible reasons:

1- Sexual deviation is not responsible just forAIDS only but for other STDs family destabilization and social problems also.

2- If Allah on one hand prohibits from sexual deviation and on the other hand teaches them how to circumvent it that means that he is aiding them in their self destruction and therefore is the enemy of the human race rather than their benefactor.

3- People fourteen centuries back did not have the knowledge and the expertise to understand and synthesize vaccines and therefore such information would not have been of any use for them on the contrary they should have done mockery of it.

Saeed

newtype_alpha

They had venerial diseases in Muhammed's time, what makes you think he wouldn't have seen that coming? Doesn't take a prophet to see the shit before it hits the fan.

saeedalyousuf

What venereal diseases were there at that time and who was infected by them?

newtype_alpha

Gonorrhea for one, and undoubtedly a small arsenal of other diseases such as Human Papilloma Virus, various types of parasites, and some ailments that were probably too lethal to survive for any period of time. Whatever else Muhammed might have been, has an extremely shrewd social engineer.

lenrek

Thanks for the link, I think the direct link should be this one.

OK, I think this link is a much reliable source of information.

So, Saeed, are you going to response to this? Or, are you going ignore this again?

Triple Six

Aren't we are supposed to be talking about the all knowing, all powerful allah here? If he can't pass down clear instructions which can be incorporated into a manual of how to make a vaccine then he isn't much of a god is he?

Strange how all his great prophecies and scientific knowledge that you claim from him are in the form of obscure poems passed on to a paedophile.