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sharon45 · 02-06-2006, 03:32 PM

In matthew 11:7, it just mentions john's disciples leaving with no acknowledgement. This would be a correct course since jesus really did answer their question unintentionally with his ignorance. The NT's jesus falls for this time and again of not understanding scripture.

sharon45 · 03-15-2006, 11:03 AM

It is always good to see a so-called macho wise man hiding behind and being run by a supposed culture than by trying to actually follow the wise path.

mikem · 03-15-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sharon45

Matthew 11:1-6
1 After Jesus had finished instructing his twelve disciples, he went on from there to teach and preach in the towns of Galilee.

2 When John heard in prison what Christ was doing, he sent his disciples
3 to ask him, "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?"

4 Jesus replied, "Go back and report to John what you hear and see:
5 The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.
6 Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me."

Then john's disciples should have answered: "That is all well and good, but are you really the one who was to come, or should we still expect someone else?"

I think the question to ask is what is Matthew telling his readers? John the Baptist was an influential figure with a loyal following, which still continued to adhere to his teachings after his death. Acts speaks of a group of them converted to Christianity (Acts 19). A passage like the above was probably created to show Jesus superiority to John (see Matthew 11:11).

sharon45 · 03-15-2006, 02:04 PM

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I think the question to ask is what is Matthew telling his readers? John the Baptist was an influential figure with a loyal following, which still continued to adhere to his teachings after his death. Acts speaks of a group of them converted to Christianity (Acts 19).

Yes, of course matthew's intent was to do this, but he failed anyway and 11:1-6 clearly reveals this. Jesus and john were about on the same footing. Both thought erroneously that they understood the real Messiah and that they were somehow important to this happening.

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Originally Posted by mikem

A passage like the above was probably created to show Jesus superiority to John (see Matthew 11:11).

Instead it again further shows the author's ignorance.

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02-06-2006, 03:32 PM	#11
sharon45 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southwest, US Posts: 8,759	In matthew 11:7, it just mentions john's disciples leaving with no acknowledgement. This would be a correct course since jesus really did answer their question unintentionally with his ignorance. The NT's jesus falls for this time and again of not understanding scripture.

03-15-2006, 11:03 AM	#12
sharon45 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southwest, US Posts: 8,759	It is always good to see a so-called macho wise man hiding behind and being run by a supposed culture than by trying to actually follow the wise path.

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