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Ezekiel source for Mark 1?
I was just reading over Ezekiel for some unrelated research reasons, and though I've read it before, I was struck by some passages in the first couple of chapters. To wit;
1:1Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth [month], on the fifth [day] of the month, as I [was] among the captives by the River Chebar, [that] the heavens were opened and I saw visions [fn] of God....description of angels coming out of a whirlwhind ensues, then God appears on a throne in the sky. 2:1 And He said to me, "Son of man, stand on your feet, and I will speak to you."This is just a superficial musing for me so far, i haven't done a comparison of Mark's Greek with the LXX, but I think it's intriguing that "in the 30th year...by the river...a vision of God occurs...the Spirit enters Ezekiel, God appears and addresses him as "son of man," tells him to warn the "rebellious" Jews as a prophet, and indicates that he will encounter "thorns." Is there source material for Mark's baptism here, or am I crazy? |
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Probably a little tenuous, as
(a) mark doesn't mention the 30th year, that is Luke. (b)The spirit descends on Jesus, it enters into Ezekiel (an author drawing on Ezekiel might have the spirit entering in) Having him go to warn a rebellious people is close but it might fit any prophet not just Ezekiel |
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kai to pneuma hOsei peristeran katabainon ep auton and the spirit like a dove descending on him Are you saying Mark has the spirit entering into jesus? |
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Helms already spotted that parallel so you are in good company. As I noted in my commentary....
Helms (1988, p32) suggests that this verse is based on Ezekiel 1:1 mediated through the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs: The heavens shall be opened And from the temple of glory shall come upon him sanctification With the Father's voice... And the glory of the Most High shall be uttered over him. (Levi 18:6). |
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What Ezekiel describes is a supernatural theme that must have been a common cultural pattern shared by many people over a wide geographical area and surviving over a long time: god choosing a messenger to deliver its sayings.
These godly manifestations are traditionally associated with some mountains, rivers, lakes... but can be distinguished one from the other by the presence of some specific cultural forms, like, in this case, the use of the phrase “Son of God” which indicates the ‘knighting’ of a man by god in the Israelite culture. In later times in another culture that man will be knighted by the Queen of England Pagan Rome also describes the election of mortals by one god or another. |
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Descend onto and enter into, would be correct in English. I'm not sure if that would be acceptible in ancient greek or koine. What about Icelandic? But my point is that the author of Mark, chose to differ from the passage in Ezekiel with descended as well. It makes it less similar in a place where it would have been easy to mirror Ezekiel. He could be trying to use Ezekiel and not mirror it I guess. But as iskander points out these themes are not confined to Ezekiel amd Mark, so it becomes pretty tenuous. There are more differences too. In Ezekiel he is sent to the people by god (not the spirit), in Mark he is sent compelled to go to the desert by the spirit not by god. |
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