Apikorus

Can any Christian provide evidence that there is so much as a single error in the Holy Qur'an? I will defend the noble Qur'an using time-tested methods of Christian fundamentalist hermeneutics.

Autonemesis

This is an infidels board. We're mostly atheists and heathens. The only Christians here are short-timers who post and run in an attempt to convert, and long-timers who are much more reasonable (read: liberal, probably not what you're looking for). The real fire-and-brimstone Christians are over here: http://www.rr-bb.com/

SkepticBoyLee

The Koran says you can beat your wife. I really do not want to hear your asinine apologetic defense of this verse or the absurd "talking ants" verse or of the war monering and hate filled verses "do not take Jews and Christians as friends" ect. ect..

The Koran is a monumental piece of dog shit.

OneWayTraffic

It is a big leap from saying a book is without errors to saying that it is "perfect in every way." Even if the Qu'ran is without errors, if it was truly perfect it wouldn't need printing, translation or even reading. A truly perfect book of God would be above such earthly things.

After looking at your post count I thought it was strange you posted such a thing. I find the contrast between this ,where you claim to be an atheist, and your last post interesting. What are you trying to achieve?

Diogenes the Cynic

Some context.

Apikorus is attempting to make a rhetorical point about Biblical apologetics. He isn't making any sincere attempt to defend the Koran. He's showing how the same kinds of tactics which are used by Christian fundamentalists can be used to defend the Koran. This is just an exercise. The OP has not gone crazy.

SkepticBoyLee

When i investigated Islam and got fairly in depth into their apologetics this is what was so striking. The apologetic methods are pretty much IDENTICAL. Same shit, different toilet.

Apikorus

Thank you, Diogenes, for disabusing those who might be confused by the OP. You have described the situation perfectly.

So many Christians insist that their Bible is unique because it is divine and perfect. Will none of them challenge the perfection of the Holy Qur'an? Do they therefore concede that the Qur'an is divine and perfect?

Iskander

Surah An-Nisa'

163. Verily, We have inspired you (O Muhammad ) as We inspired Nûh (Noah) and the Prophets after him; We (also) inspired Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob), and AlAsbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)], 'Iesa (Jesus), Ayub (Job), Yûnus (Jonah), Hârûn (Aaron), and Sulaimân (Solomon), and to Dawûd (David) We gave the Zabûr (Psalms).

As you can see the Koran says that it includes the Tanach and the Greek Testament. The book claims to be only an update. For example Jesus is a prophet of Allah and will sit on his right in the final day, Mary is a virgin Muslim and hell exists.

In Islam you have also to include the Sunnah which must be used together with Koran and the Sunnah consist of the acts and sayings of Mohamed ,some3000 or so.

Since they claim divine authorship of the OT and NT it does not require independent analysis

Apikorus

I fail to see any error adduced here.

The Holy Qur'an is not an "update". It is the ultimate revelation of Allah to his greatest prophet, Mohammed (pbuh). While the Jewish and Christian scriptures have become corrupted by scribes, the Holy Qur'an remains perfect in every way. Generations of the world's greatest poets have attempted to reproduce even a pale image of the literary genius of the Qur'an, but all have failed.

Iskander

Allah dictated theTanach and Gospel whatever it is in those books it was said by Allah corruption is an unfounded charge because Allah takes care that his words are not corrupted.

Perfection,genious etc could you explain ?