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Old 09-21-2005, 05:44 PM   #1
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I am looking for some critiques and defences of the Jesus seminar.

I am aware of the following books in which the views of the Seminar are discussed at varying lenghts and dismissed (I have yet to acquire them but am informed that they are good starting points for a critique):
N. T. Wright, Jesus and the Victory of God (Christian Origins and the Question of God, Volume 2), 1997, Augsburg Fortress Publishers.

N. T. Wright, The Challenge of Jesus: Rediscovering Who Jesus Was and Is, 1999, InterVarsity Press.

N. T. Wright, The New Testament and the People of God (Christian Origins and the Question of God), 1996, Augsburg Fortress Publishers.

Luke Timothy Johnson, The Real Jesus : The Misguided Quest for the Historical Jesus and the Truth of the Traditional Gospels, 1997, HarperSanFrancisco.

Ben Witherington III, The Jesus Quest: The Third Search for the Jew of Nazareth, Second Edition, 1997, InterVarsity Press.
I am sure there might be other critiques of the Jesus Seminar out there, but the above ones, I think, are the main critiques and defences of the traditional Christian view.

I need to know in which books we find support, defence, partial endorsement of the Jesus Seminar views? Just a few main relevant titles, say 3 or 4?

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Old 09-21-2005, 06:31 PM   #2
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From the "con" perspective, you want want to look up a couple of books by some evangelical scholars:

Gregory Boyd: Cynic Sage or Son of God and Jesus Under Siege

Darrell L. Bock: Jesus According to Scripture: Restoring the Portrait from the Gospels

Jesus Under Fire - This is by multiple authors, so you may want to check it out as it has a wide variety of evangelical scholars.

From the Pro:

The Jesus Seminar and Its Critics by Robert J. Miller


As far as I know the Jesus Seminar doesn't spend much time responding to evangelical critiques so there isn't much out there. There's stuff from a non-evangelical perspective of course, but I'm not aware of anything as direct as the above. The above is a collection of essays, abridged versions of which are available online somewhere I think.

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excerpts from the Jesus Seminar and its critics

Jesus Seminar and its critics searchable on Amazon

You can also search this forum for Jesus Seminar.

Review of the Jesus Seminar and its Critics by Rober Price
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:45 PM   #4
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Saint Saul by Akenson has a small section about the seminar, though almost all of the book is dedicated to rejecting the things they take for granted.
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Old 09-22-2005, 05:05 PM   #5
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Thank you everyone for the links and books.

I intend to get the ones I mentioned in my first message, also "Jesus under fire", together with Miller's "The Jesus seminar and its critics". I am sure it would take a few months to read all these books and understand the arguments.

I am surprised that the Seminar has not done much to counter their critics. Although there are some reviews and short papers in their defence on the internet, there appears to be only one book, the one by Miller. I hope in the future they would some attempts to counter their critics.
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Actually, I forgot, here's one in which Miller critiques Witherington's critiques:

http://www.atheistalliance.org/jhc/a...s/Millerbw.htm
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