offa

Roland
Any good theories out there about who that naked young man is in Mark 14:51-52?

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Simon Magus was also arrested. He was the "young man" who was
seized and "fled away naked". Brought before Caiaphas, he was
condemned, expelled from the ministry, and so defrocked.




JESUS & THE RIDDLE

OF THE

DEAD SEA SCROLLS



Unlocking the
Secrets of His Life Story



Barbara Thiering







HarperSanFrancisco
A Division of Harper Collins Publishers


ISBN 0-06-067782-1

p.109
offa

spin

Yoiks, one says. Yoiks.

We talks about evidence before as beink impotent. Well, here we are with it at its most impotent. Who viser than offa to introduce this gem. Simon Magus, who is never mentioned in a gospel, is actually the young man wot runs away naked?! Wot a disco very, very, very. I'd never haff thought of it, but then I dont haff the method, the fishy-peshy-pesher method. It's better than the rhythm method. It's cheaper than the Berkley method. And it's safer than the calendar method. Simon Magus was arrested. What a wonder-blonder-miss onder sta-sta-stan ding! ding! ding! DONG! I never thought of that: daddy will be pleased. BT probably even has the scene between Simon and Caiaphas on video-tape. Sex, Lies and Videotape. I'm still smarting over her old hide theory to explain why C14 doesn't support her analyses. Who else would ever have thought of those wily E-scenes writing on old hides just to trick us into thinking BT was wrong? Who else but Babs the Wizardess of Oz?


pins

offa

Well, Spin ... you have spun. I simply answered the question asked in the original opening of this thread.

BTW,
Simon Magus is mentioned often in the New Testament. You ever hear of Simony? You have exposed yourself... go crawl back into your closet.




offa

Chili

Was it he who helped carry the cross? In that case you may have a point and I am not really surprised that your 'detour' will get you there.

Toto

pins [ ] correctly states that Simon Magus is never mentioned in a gospel, but he may be mentioned in Acts 8:9-12, where the word simony does in fact originate.

edited to add: Thiering on Simon Magus does not mention the naked young man from Mark. Is this offa's interpretation?

offa

Simon Magus was also arrested. He was the "young man" who was
seized and "fled away naked". Brought before Caiaphas, he was
condemned, expelled from the ministry, and so defrocked.




JESUS & THE RIDDLE

OF THE

DEAD SEA SCROLLS



Unlocking the
Secrets of His Life Story



Barbara Thiering







HarperSanFrancisco
A Division of Harper Collins Publishers


ISBN 0-06-067782-1

p.109


the above; Simon Magus was also arrested. He was the "young man" who was
seized and "fled away naked". Brought before Caiaphas, he was
condemned, expelled from the ministry, and so defrocked

is a direct quotation from the above mentioned book and the page number is cited. You can find the same sentence in "Jesus the Man", p.146.

BTW, Toto, thanks for the URL, I think I will go back and read it.

offa

Peter Kirby

What footnote did she write for that sentence? (She did write one, right?)

Oh, and spin: :notworthy

best,
Peter Kirby

offa

Simon Magus was also arrested. He was the "young man" who was
seized and "fled away naked".6 p.109

The reference on page 422 says.

"6 Mk 14:51-52."


BTW, Thiering often has inconclusive references, kind of circular.
Carefully read the opening (#1) verse in this thread and check
my answer out. I answered one of the questions and gave a
reference ... what more was I supposed to do?

I suppose pins was talking about "carbon dating". I felt his
post was incoherent. This thread is not about carbon dating.

But, Thiering has her opinion and, Robert Eisenman led me to
believe that he agrees with her because he writes a similar
critique. I do not trust the dating because the original
people doing the Scrolls were religiously affiliated. Religious
people have a tendency to sell ocean-front property in Arizona.

offa

spin

The original post was couched in words like "good theory" and "plausibility". There is nothing whatsoever related to the text under consideration to connect Simon Magus with the youth who ran away naked.

My post was about veracity and rabbits in hats.

Those people with a generic distrust for C14 are those who know little about it. Note that this is not the case with BT, who attempts to adhere to the findings of the various C14 tests on the DSS except for when they disagree with her and then she tries to fudge.


pins

spin

You must be joking. If I exposed myself, that would be truly ugly. So b-b-b-baby, you ain't seen nuthin yet.


pins