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Acts of Pilate split from When did NT Canon get established
Does this mean that somebody simply chose to interpolate this little reference to the "Acts of Pilate" in the first Justin Apology to give the Apology more veracity for the 2nd century? I suppose if they had, they could have at least had Justin using the names of the canonical gospels and make at least one reference to "Paul", but they didn't fix it up for some reason....
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There is great confusion about what is meant by the term "The Acts of Pilate". There appears to be at least three different documents or manuscripts that are sometimes referred by this name. SeeThree Acts of Pilate - we have:
(3.1) The very early christian "Acts of Pilate" (3.2) The early fourth century pagan "Acts of Pilate" (3.3) The late fourth century christian "Acts of Pilate" About 3.1: Quote:
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If Justin really directed his emperor to a text in his archive that doesn't even exist, it would be like someone telling the president to look in Library of Congress for all information about how George Washington cut down the cherry tree or the adventures of Paul Bunyan.
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Dave,
You'll never avoid bias, I'm afraid. The trick to interpreting "history" (historical narrative) is to recognize that facts about history are always analyzed from the perspective (POV) of the author of that history, and thus are retold anew. You, the reader of those histories, have to figure out a system to neutralize the bias, and recover the facts that had been relayed. I do this by ignoring the "color commentary" contained in the historical narrative. Someone has already introduced the Acts of Pilate, but seems to confuse them with the Acts of Pilate mentioned mentioned by Eusebius, and again with the books so named that have been preserved among Christian apocrypha. There are three writers who speak of Acts of Pilate: Justin says: The Apology of Justin 1:35 And the expression, "They pierced my hands and my feet," was used in reference to the nails of the cross which were fixed in His hands and feet. And after He was crucified they cast lots upon His vesture, and they that crucified Him parted it among them. And that these things did happen, you can ascertain from the Acts (ακτων) of Pontius Pilate.These "aktOn" (Acts, sometimes referred to as Acta) are actually the official notes of trials and decisions that government officials were expected to record and periodically forward on to their superiors. Bureaucrats at the next level summarized them into statistics and forwarded the statistics up the chain of command to the Imperium or the Senate. What Justin is confidently assuming is that the truth of the Christian accounts of Jesus and his death could be confirmed by reference to these kinds of official records. However, what the upper levels of the bureaucracy did with the original records is not known, but I will note that remains of a number of them (by village magistrates and regional governors) were found in the garbage dumps of Oxyrhynchus in Egypt, although these may be the copies publically posted at the magistrate's office each day. Tertullian says: Tertullian Apology 5:1 Tiberius accordingly, in whose days the Christian name made its entry into the world, having himself received intelligence from Palestine of events which had clearly shown the truth of Christ's divinity, brought the matter before the senate, with his own decision in favour of Christ. The senate, because it had not given the approval itself, rejected his proposal. Caesar held to his opinion, threatening wrath against all accusers of the Christians.It appears that Tertullian is even more confidently assuming that whatever Acta he received from Palestine would have been sooooo compelling that the Emperor would certainly have ruled Jesus divine, but since he hadn't, the Senate must have restrained him. Eusebius says: Church History of Eusebius, II.ii. AND when the wonderful resurrection and ascension of our Saviour were already noised abroad, in accordance with an ancient custom which prevailed among the rulers of the provinces, of reporting to the emperor the novel occurrences which took place in them, in order that nothing might escape him, Pontius Pilate informed Tiberius of the reports which were noised abroad through all Palestine concerning the resurrection of our Saviour Jesus from the dead. He gave an account also of other wonders which he had learned of him, and how, after his death, having risen from the dead, he was now believed by many to be a God.When Eusebius says "they say" it sounds to me like Eusebius hadn't himself actually seen this miraculous account, but is referring to the "accounts" of Tertullian and Justin. Eusebius also mentions certain Acts of Pilate that were published in the reign of emperor Maximin around 311 CE, in two separate places: Church History of Eusebius I.ix.2-4 The same writer (Josephus), in the eighteenth book of his Antiquities, says that about the twelfth year of the reign of Tiberius ... Pontius Pilate was entrusted with the government of Judea [Ant. 18:32-35], and that he remained there ten full years, almost until the death of Tiberius [Ant. 18:89].What Eusebius means by "if Josephus is to be accepted" is this: Antiquities of the Jews 18:32-35 32 ... Caesar, the second emperor of the Romans, ... 33 upon whose death Tiberius Nero, his wife Julia's son, succeeded. He was now the third emperor; and he sent Valerius Gratus to be procurator of Judea, and to succeed Annius Rufus. 34 This man deprived Ananus of the high priesthood, and appointed Ismael, the son of Phabi, to be high priest. He also deprived him in a little time, and ordained Eleazar, the son of Ananus, who had been high priest before, to be high priest: which office, when he had held for a year, Gratus deprived him of it, and gave the high priesthood to Simon, the son of Camithus; 35 and, when he had possessed that dignity no longer than a year, Joseph Caiaphas was made his successor. When Gratus had done those things he went back to Rome, after he had tarried in Judea eleven years, when Pontius Pilate came as his successor [i.e. in the 12th year of Tiberius, 26 CE].Eusebius's comment suggests that not everyone accepted the reading that yields 26 CE for the appointment of Pilate, or there was doubt about the accuracy of his sources in this case. The detailed accounts of Gratus' governorship cover only the first four years of a rule that supposedly ran seven years longer. This, plus the fact that specific numbers are attributed to Gratus and Pilate alone (11 & 10 years respectively, while all the other governors' actions before and after Gratus and Pilate are dated by year of the reign of the emperors), might suggest that Josephus' account was tampered with and that Pilate was actually appointed after Gratus served only four years (i.e. 19 CE). This would allow the Acta Pilati of Maximin to be correct in dating the events surrounding Jesus to 21 CE. To justify his charge that the Acts published by Maximin, which disagreed with the dating inferred from the Gospels, surely had to be fabrications, he says further: Church History of Eusebius IX.iv-vi: iv ... Priests for the images [erected to emperor Maximin as a god by the Greek cities of the provinces] were then appointed in the cities, and besides them high priests by Maximinus himself. The latter were taken from among those who were most distinguished in public life and had gained celebrity in all the offices which they had filled; and who were imbued, moreover, with great zeal for the service of those whom they worshiped.These have nothing to do whatsoever with the apocryphal Acts of Pilate preserved in Christian literature. You, as a reader of history, have to learn to read between the lines. DCH |
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It's kind of amusing to see this author ("Eusebius") spend so much time and effort talking about the enemies who plotted against his group when it was his group that was attaining favor with the rulers against all others......
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But how can we be reasonably sure? Scholarship seems to have convinced itself that the manuscript in our possession was authored by christians in response to the "Pagan Acts of Pilate", presented above as reported by Eusebius. The text itself in its current form has the date of 425 CE written in the text. A number of scholars allow that this date could have been altered, from an earlier date, but most scholars provided as estimated chronology for the "Late Christian Acts of Pilate" as being within the fourth century. In their book Apocryphal gospels Hans-Josef Klauck and Brian McNeil (2003) write: "By c.378 CE, Epiphanius of Salamis clearly knows Christian Acts of Pilate, Can you DCH or anyone dig out the reasons by which scholarship has convinced itself that there were two 4th century "Acts of Pilate" - the one referred to by Eusebius as the "Pagan Acts of Pilate" and the other, the text in our possession ANOTHER separate and later "Christian Acts of Pilate". Occam reckons there is no later Christian version, only the one "Pagan Acts of Pilate" and we are looking right at it, especially in the bit that Pilate informs the Jews that Jesus heals by the god Asclepius. I cannot honestly conceive of a 4th century Christian saying that Big J did his healing via the pagan god of medicine and physicians. It is more likely the author was a follower of Asclepius. Quote:
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DCHindley,
Excellent analysis of the problem. I'll just add one more thought. Why does Eusebius not quote from the Christian Acts of Pilate? Why does he quote Tertullian instead? It is obvious that he does this because he does not have the Christian Acts of Pilate. Why doesn't he? How could this ultra-important document have disappeared in the 100 year period from Tertullian to Eusebius. It seems ridiculous that if this document was in the possession of Tertullian, he would not have sent a copy of it to the Churches in Rome and Alexandria and they would not have circulated it to dozens of other churches. It would certainly have been important to every orthodox Church to have this document and circulate it as widely as possible to combat heresy, a central mission for the Orthodox Churches. How could Justin know of the existence of this document and not seek out a copy to be certain what was in it? We are left with only two realistic possibilities: Tertullian or somebody has duped Eusebius and he is transmitting a false description of a document that never existed or Eusebius himself is falsifying document tertullian and perhaps Justin's work. We could permit Eusebius the excuse that he was duped if he had honestly raised the question of the missing document. He could have explained that Tertullian had kept the document in his possession and allowed nobody to copy it and it was destroyed in a fire or disappeared after his death. However, he does not do this, but gives the opposite impression that the document is in circulation and known. Since Eusebius is concealing or lying about the availability of the document to himself and others, there is no reason to believe that he is not lying about the document itself. Therefore, the most logical conclusion is that he is making up a Christian Acta of Pilate to combat the Roman Acta of Pilate, which is as he suggests, most likely a forgery. Again we see that instead of being a concrete foundation for Christian history based on rock solid truths and near certain probabilities, in Eusebius, we have a muddy swamp of uncertainties and probable lies. Warmly, Jay Raskin Quote:
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Jay, who knows if Eusebius even existed or whether his book was a project written by others?
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"The main body of Acta Pilati is in two sections, with an appendix, Descensus ad Infernos—the Harrowing of Hell—that does not exist in the Greek texts, and is a later addition to the Latin versions.This is clearly the result of popular imaginitave story telling. An appended text [The Report of Pilate to Claudius] purports to be a written report made by Pontius Pilate to [Tiberius] Claudius [Nero = emperor Tiberius], containing an anti-Semitic description of the crucifixion, as well as an account of the resurrection of Jesus; both are presented as if in an official report [that is, official Acta]. Quote:
Even though the Report of Pilate from the mid 4th century claims to have been found in the archives of the Roman Praetorium in Jerusalem, the fact was that any files resident there were likely destroyed in the rebellion of 66-74 CE (look what happened to the records maintained by the extensive bureaucracy of Saddam and Qadafi after their regimes fell). Quote:
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Tiberius ergo, cuius tempore nomen Christianum in saeculum introivit, adnuntiatum [was announced] sibi [to him] ex Syria Palaestina, quod illic veritatem ipsius divinitatis revelaverat, detulit ad senatum cum praerogativa suffragii sui. Senatus, quia non ipse probaverat, respuit; Caesar in sententia mansit, comminatus periculum accusatoribus Christianorum. Quote:
Unfortunately he gives very little detail other than a specific date for the "passion" of the Lord. Seeing that if they were correct it would call into question the Christian gospel accounts, of course he is going to say Maximin's version is a "forgery!" It does not appear that Maximin's Acta had anythiong good to say about Jesus. As noted before, there is evidence that the preserved text of Josephus has been altered to remove any possibility of Maximin's date (21 CE) being correct. Rather than indicating Maximin's Acta were fabrications, it suggests rather that they were seen as enough of a threat that mss of Josephus would be altered to help dispose of the threat. Such an alteration to book 18 of Josephus' Antiquities would have to have been made between 311 CE (the year Maximin published what he purported to be actual Acts of Pilate) and 325 CE when Eusebius wrote the Church History. Eusebius was fully aware that not everyone was happy with the text of Josephus as he recounts it. DCH |
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I've recently updated my earlier chart re the 21 ce dating referenced by Eusebius. What I have done is work with the idea of an ur-Luke - starting from 3:1. (sure, from a 'Q' perspective this might not go down well - but I'm interested in the development of the gospel storyline re JC....) A storyline that has moved with the times, as they say, and sought to update the time frame for the JC pseudo-history as historical events change. Resulting in a JC story that is 'salvation history' not actual history.
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