manwithdream

Outhouse,

I never said that the people of Israel never worshiped other gods. Obviously, the Hebrew Bible mentions probably thousands of times that they shouldn't be doing that. I am saying that the prophets or whoever you think wrote the Hebrew Bible did not teach those beliefs.

I am sure that there were all kinds of people with every kind of religious belief in those days. I also think that there might be some examples of their beliefs being passed down as part of the Hebrew BIble like Psalm 82 where G-d talks to other gods, although I think it might be a parody, but I am not sure about that.

I also said that I don't cite scholars, but that does not mean that I think my work is inaccurate.

Kenneth Greifer

manwithdream

Iskander,

You might be the first person not related to me to ever buy my book. I hope you won't be disappointed.

Thank you.

Kenneth Greifer

Iskander

As I said your site offers a very interesting reading and my ordering of the book is not, therefore, a blind date.

Dull people are often disappointed by anything other than pornography and the intellectually pledged are invariably disappointed by anything other than the soulless repetitions of monotonous mantras.

I would ignore such disappointed people.

outhouse

what you call prophets, were nothing more then collecters of legends who obviously believed in polytheism.

my point is, I dont think your taking into accounbt later redactions to the text that clearly painted a monotheistic belief. and then applying that to earlier text that is known to be polytheistic in origin.

these early pieces are works that evolved over hundreds of years, and most of the first five books are nothing more then compilations of legends redacted as the culture changed. and written over hundreds of years



Do you not admit to interpreting every passage even ones dealing with polytheism, and stating they are all monotheistic faith.?


where a scholar would claim this is due to the original author believing in El and El Elyon, you have interpreted it to state a belief in one god and then try and justify it. ???????

manwithdream

Outhouse,

Yes, you are right that I actually believe that the Hebrew Bible was written by prophets who taught monotheism and that these books were passed down for thousands of years. I think along the way some details of these books were forgotten and misunderstood, so there is some confusion about what many quotes originally said. That is what most of my work is on, but I also tried to explain quotes that seem to contradict monotheism.

Kenneth Greifer

outhouse

Ken sorry i came off to hard at first, I have a passion for history.


But we are not talking about thousands of years for the OT

You do know its factual that Israelites did not exist prior to 1200 BC at that time they were still nomadic to semi nomadic Canaanites, and these people were called Israel. They were polytheistic and were still part of the displaced Canaanite civlization thay had previously collapsed.

From 1200 to 1000 BC there was a slow migration of people that slowly began to differentiate themselves from their previous civlilization and began taking on new traits all their own.


around 1000 BC some of the early legends were being recorded but these do not exist as written. the first five books are so fragamented after hundreds of years of redaction and compilation of legends, its hard to recognize what was first written.

the people did however shuffle between deities and rallied around yahweh in times of war, it wasnt until 622 BC when king Josiah a strict yahwist took over that monotheism was born, but still not seated in Israeite culture.


what im telling you isnt really up for debate, it is what is known and accepted by most biblical scholars today.


some good reading for you would be a "history of god" by Karen Armstrong

heres a great link to a old but trusted scolarship on the first five books and how they came to be.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/log/log06.htm


read this and see how it applies to your books, if you have a passion for the truth, id like to see what you come up with after learning some real history