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Doug Shaver · 01-02-2006, 10:05 AM

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the TRUTH hurts!

Does the truth always hurt?

Does a falsehood ever hurt?

Mountain Man · 01-02-2006, 10:15 AM

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awww rumikey....upset that you dont do much charitable work ? well, its the truth and the TRUTH hurts!

Atheists do more charitable work than christians. We just don't brag about it. Did you know you're going against what your own religion tells you to do?

Matthew 6

1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

That says that your own religion is calling you a hypocrit. :rolling:

RUmike · 01-02-2006, 10:30 AM

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"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Sorry, just thought I would make that a little bigger in case a certain someone missed it.

Priceless. How could we all forget about this passage?

mata leao · 01-02-2006, 12:03 PM

such a wonderful smokescreen to hide the fact that atheists do very very little volunteer charitable work in the tampa bay metro area. I live here i know.

Viti · 01-02-2006, 12:53 PM

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thats funny spanky, I volunteer for habitat for humanity and most weekends it is only Christians who show up to work, where are the atheists? could it be that Constantine's long sword no longer frightens them? yes Power raises the houses, and that power has a source my friend, it has a source. It isnt "a game" to the poor children when you see the smiles on their faces as they move into their first house! shame on you my friend, shame on you!

Weird, a couple of lesbians head our regional chapter of Habitat for Humanity, and many non-Christians work with them...I have met several of them.

Viti · 01-02-2006, 12:55 PM

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such a wonderful smokescreen to hide the fact that atheists do very very little volunteer charitable work in the tampa bay metro area. I live here i know.

How do you know that? After Katrina I volunteered in many places, worked side by side with Christians, and not one asked me my beliefs about God. Do you think they knew they were working with an atheist? Does it matter?

Exodus, is that you?

Mountain Man · 01-02-2006, 02:06 PM

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Sorry, just thought I would make that a little bigger in case a certain someone missed it.

Priceless. How could we all forget about this passage?

It won't make any difference. Our little friend has a religious addiction. He cannot comprehend any arguments that would effect his addiction, just like an alcoholic cannot comprehend a life without alcohol.

Brian63 · 01-02-2006, 04:29 PM

I wonder if mata is Catholic. Does the existence of a "St. Mary's Hospital" provide evidence/proof that Catholicism is true and that Mary was a saint?

Brian

mikey1987 · 01-03-2006, 07:54 AM

I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that there aren't many "Atheist" organizations because people give to secular causes instead. We don't need a cause based on our common lack of belief. We all have different views and morals and give to charities accordingly. We don't need a religion to tell us how or why we should be giving to other people. We do it anyway, and without the church or god or jesus or santa.

Christians have hospitals -so what? The KKK sponsors highways! Where's the anti-KKK? Why aren't they sponsoring highways?! See! You should join the KKK!

Huon · 01-03-2006, 08:29 AM

I have always thought that charity is simply a palliative to injustice. We have lived during 15 to 18 centuries in Christian States (christian kings or presidents), and still, charity is a necessity ? Ha ha !

Where is Jesus Christ in this story ?

Charitable people choose the "good" poor people, and humiliate them with their measured gifts. Charity is a good thing for charitable people. Most of the poor people would prefer having a good job, and why not, from a christian employer.

However, there will always be beggars.

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01-02-2006, 12:03 PM	#54
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	such a wonderful smokescreen to hide the fact that atheists do very very little volunteer charitable work in the tampa bay metro area. I live here i know.

01-02-2006, 04:29 PM	#58
Brian63 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: My own little fantasy world Posts: 8,911	I wonder if mata is Catholic. Does the existence of a "St. Mary's Hospital" provide evidence/proof that Catholicism is true and that Mary was a saint? Brian

01-03-2006, 07:54 AM	#59
mikey1987 Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT Posts: 113	I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that there aren't many "Atheist" organizations because people give to secular causes instead. We don't need a cause based on our common lack of belief. We all have different views and morals and give to charities accordingly. We don't need a religion to tell us how or why we should be giving to other people. We do it anyway, and without the church or god or jesus or santa. Christians have hospitals -so what? The KKK sponsors highways! Where's the anti-KKK? Why aren't they sponsoring highways?! See! You should join the KKK!

01-03-2006, 08:29 AM	#60
Huon Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bordeaux France Posts: 2,796	I have always thought that charity is simply a palliative to injustice. We have lived during 15 to 18 centuries in Christian States (christian kings or presidents), and still, charity is a necessity ? Ha ha ! Where is Jesus Christ in this story ? Charitable people choose the "good" poor people, and humiliate them with their measured gifts. Charity is a good thing for charitable people. Most of the poor people would prefer having a good job, and why not, from a christian employer. However, there will always be beggars.

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