Littlejohn

From the description given by the author of the Gospel of John (surely someone who manipulated an earlier document of ebionite origins: perhaps of Cerinto), apparently the women near the cross of Jesus seem four. However, the rest of the New Testament documents affirms that women were three and not four.

It is therefore obvious that evangelist "John" worked a manipulation of the episode, in order to hide something. A technique, that, heavily abused by the authors of the canonical Gospels. In the present case, in to verse 19:25 one of the women is mentioned twice, identifying her in ambiguous manner. In addition it must be said, since Jesus was never crucified, that the scene of the burial (but not of the crucifixion) regarded John the Baptist and not Jesus of Nazareth!

When Jesus was actually buried, there weren't more familiar with him. The mother had died, while his wife and children (and probably a grandson, whose descendants originated the affair about "Sang Raal") they were in Gaul. In all likelihood, the "Joseph of Arimathea" that offered his own new tomb for the burial of Jesus (read John the Baptist) was Joseph, the very rich grandfather of Jesus (in proto-Gospel of James he is called "Gioacchino"): in practice, the same character that in the canonical Gospels is passed as the "old husband of the Virgin Mary" when in reality he was the father of the woman!


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bleubird

Sorry,but this reminds me of a bad joke.
Why do women love Jesus?
Because he is H----ung----like----this----.[big fish hand gesture]


littlebleu

Lógos Sokratikós

So, Little John, the Galileans spoke in the Tuscan dialect or your sources are Italian and you actually don't have a great deal of knowledge of the Near Eastern texts you mention? Or maybe you took that from the Italian subtitles of that "Il Codice Da Vinci" movie you saw over eight times?

Lugubert

No Jesus -> No cross -> No women.

Littlejohn

It is not impossible that things might have gone in this way also... By the Rabbinic literature (or a part of it) one intend something like that!

It seems that his son Marcus (John said Marcus, brother of Joseph said Barnabas) also had followed the footsteps of his father. At least from what you can derive from the patristic literature you can imagine this, even if in that literature the figure of this character is not in close relationship with the figure of Jesus. Hippolytus tells us that this man claimed to know the real name of Jesus (a very old name and estimated, according to that character): obviously that's not surprising, since John Mark was the son of the Nazarene!


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Littlejohn

Well, we can not say that you lack of "good humor"!...

I forgot to translate "Gioacchino", which is in our Bible (which is not exactly written in Tuscan dialect, "although Benigni read it in this way!) with your "Johachim".

"..Or maybe you took that from the Italian subtitles of that "Il Codice Da Vinci" movie you saw over eight times?.."

Uhmmm ...... This is sarcasm "fine and good", which is not the same thing as "good humor" ... However it has no relevance for me, if not the fact that this confirms that what I write to someone makes to come the 'hives "!... Especially to the "foundies "...("cattoidolatri" for us)


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