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tracer · 12-17-2003, 06:34 PM

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"And he said to them, 'I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power'."
-- Mark 9:1

Isn't the Wandering Jew hypothesis sometimes used to vindicate this passage?

Toto · 12-17-2003, 06:51 PM

That is in fact the origin of the Wandering Jew legend. The poor man is not allowed to die because Jesus has not yet come back.

Koyaanisqatsi · 12-18-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kattaz : First: not all 144000 live in the time of Jesus. Only few may lisen His words; the others are taken from other places and other periods of time.

Taken alive?

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MORE: Why they are redeemed? Because all mens are under a curse and they have to die. They are redeemed from that curse for a period of time, and they will be transformed as come from dead when Jesus arrive for second time.

Except that, the "first" time Jesus came, his death supposedly "paid the price" for death and Paul makes that point perfectly clear; they will not die--physically. Their bodies are to be changed while they are still alive. Or so his claim.

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MORE: Some of Corinthians and Thessolonians may also be there, but there is another situation: the kidnaping of normal (non-virgin if you want) people, mens and womens, at the moment of Jesus arrival.

The first or the second time?

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MORE: P.S. When you learn romanian as I can speak english, you can make any observations you want.

Thanks, but just to clarify, I was complimenting you on your command of English.

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12-17-2003, 06:51 PM	#12
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	That is in fact the origin of the Wandering Jew legend. The poor man is not allowed to die because Jesus has not yet come back.

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