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Old 10-03-2012, 12:26 PM   #1
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Default Mythicist Papers: Rene Salm's new website

Mythicist Papers

A collection of resources for the study of early Christianity.

An interesting, sometimes irreverent, collection of historical and modern sources.
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*shakes fist* Damn you Toto, reading through that website has gotten me interested in this thrice-damned subject again!
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dont you think this is exactly like creationism?

in that creationist create a mythical problem that doesnt exist by blowing out of porportion aspects there untrained to address???
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dont you think this is exactly like creationism?
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in that creationist create a mythical problem that doesnt exist by blowing out of porportion aspects there untrained to address???
What are your qualifications to judge others' training? You obviously don't know very much about the recognized problems in the fruitless quests for a historical Jesus.
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looks just like a creationist website quoting a few opinons, looking for loopholes in evolution, and using untrained people to state the world is 6000 years old.


all bark and no bite.


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What are your qualifications to judge others' training?
what training do I need to go up against one labeled as a internet blogger, quote mining simular to a creationist?

Do creationist need qualifications?


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You obviously don't know very much about the recognized problems in the fruitless quests for a historical Jesus.

ah! you mean the problems created by mythers? I bet you dont think like creationist propaganda, they are blown out of porportion.
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looks just like a creationist website quoting a few opinons, looking for loopholes in evolution, and using untrained people to state the world is 6000 years old.


all bark and no bite.
You haven't even looked at the website. It contains lots of historical material.


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what training do I need to go up against one labeled as a internet blogger, quote mining simular to a creationist? ...
You need to at least read the website.



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You obviously don't know very much about the recognized problems in the fruitless quests for a historical Jesus.

ah! you mean the problems created by mythers? I bet you dont think like creationist propaganda, they are blown out of porportion.
No, the problems in the 3 quests for a historical Jesus are recognized by all scholars. You have just disqualified yourself from commenting in this thread.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #7
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No, the problems in the 3 quests for a historical Jesus are recognized by all scholars. You have just disqualified yourself from commenting in this thread.
well you would be wrong again.

creationist are always complaining when we add to the TOE, saying it discounts the original.

Just as science grows in knowledge, so does history.



I did thumb through the site, when I get off work ill read it deeper. I have not stated it lacks some credible knowledge, creationist will often provide statements such as, truth, truth, misinformation to promote their agenda.

I hope I dont find that
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*shakes fist* Damn you Toto, reading through that website has gotten me interested in this thrice-damned subject again!
Ta gg I shall avoid it like the plague!

Unless, of course, that there is a poor portion they are detaining at the @ddress.:notworthy:
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*shakes fist* Damn you Toto, reading through that website has gotten me interested in this thrice-damned subject again!
Yep, once one gets the bug in ones system it never goes away entirely - always there waiting for the least little bit of agro or excitement - and away one goes again on that mystery of all mystery trails.....

The urban legend to top all urban legends. The urban legend that has the world in it's thrall - a world of simple minded people who believe everything they hear? But what's that old saying; 'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time'. And if that is how things are - then I don't think we should be quick to think all of the people, back 2000 or so years ago, were fooled all of the time. Some people would be aware that the gospel JC story was not history - just as some people do so today.

The difference between back then and now? The closer to the relevant historical time slot the easier it would be to observe the gospel story as allegory not history. Further away and it's the other way around. It's now far easier to read that gospel story as history than read it as allegory. The way out of this problem - we have to keep digging for a clearer historical picture.

Happy digging.....:wave:
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*shakes fist* Damn you Toto, reading through that website has gotten me interested in this thrice-damned subject again!
Yep, once one gets the bug in ones system it never goes away entirely - always there waiting for the least little bit of agro or excitement - and away one goes again on that mystery of all mystery trails.....

The urban legend to top all urban legends. The urban legend that has the world in it's thrall - a world of simple minded people who believe everything they hear? But what's that old saying; 'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time'. And if that is how things are - then I don't think we should be quick to think all of the people, back 2000 or so years ago, were fooled all of the time. Some people would be aware that the gospel JC story was not history - just as some people do so today.

The difference between back then and now? The closer to the relevant historical time slot the easier it would be to observe the gospel story as allegory not history. Further away and it's the other way around. It's now far easier to read that gospel story as history than read it as allegory. The way out of this problem - we have to keep digging for a clearer historical picture.

Happy digging.....:wave:
I agree it's a mistake to think people were any less clever (or any less stupid) than people of today. I don't think human nature has changed much over the past few thousand years.

Glad to have this link - will be interested to read more on this topic.
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