dog-on

I don't recall Lord Satan being part of the original Genesis cast.

IBelieveInHymn

http://www.abu.nb.ca/ecm/Ez00b.htm

One Babylonian text, dated to Nebuchadnezzar’s 37th year, 588 B.C. (Not 586 B.C as I previously posted), has been found that mentions a campaign against Egypt. Whether it relates to the original conquest or merely to a subsequent military action cannot be said. At any rate, Nebuchadnezzar received Egypt’s wealth as his pay for military service rendered in Jehovah’s execution of judgment against Tyre, an opposer of God’s people.—Ezekiel 29:18-20; 30:10-12.

Following the pacification of Tyre, Nebuchadnezzar turned again to Egypt. A clay tablet,[6] now in the British Museum, states: "In the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar, king of the country of Babylon, he went to Mitzraim (Egypt) to make war. Amasis, king of Egypt, collected [his army], and marched and spread abroad." Having completed the subjugation of Phoenicia, and a campaign against Egypt, Nebuchadnezzar set himself to rebuild and adorn the city of Babylon, and constructed canals, aqueducts, temples and reservoirs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebucha..._II_of_Babylon

IBelieveInHymn

Let me refresh your studies. Satan=The Serpent.

The Book of Revelation refers to Satan as "The Old Serpent in the Garden."

funinspace

Yes, where are the good old days like when Roman emperors would put on public shows having people fighting to the death, and prisoners fed to lions; the good old days when the victor in war saw nothing wrong with killing and raping noncombatants and children of the group they over ran; the good old days when a few societies had mass human sacrifice as part of their culture; the good old days when women were little more than property in most societies; the good old days when brutal slavery was allowed in most countries; good old days when children grew up knowing to keep their molestations to themselves so not to embarrass the family; yes the good old days when 99% of humanity lived in abject poverty; yes the good old days when a simple injury could lead to death, or when disease would sweep thru and kill much of a generation of children......

Yeah it really sucks having a military that actually has to criminally try their soldiers who kill without cause, when it used to be celebrated...


Yep, I can understand the reluctance to advertise that you believe and cuddle up to such an obscenity :devil1:

dog-on

You say, but Genesis doesn't.

Revelation is irrelevant to Genesis.

BTW, how was Eve liable if she had no knowledge of good and evil?

In other words, such knowledge is why we try not to execute toddlers for criminal behavior.

Why does God hate the children?

IBelieveInHymn

If I stand back and look at the entire picture, I know Satan was in the Garden. There are other parts in the bible that refer Satan as the Serpent in the Garden.

Conclusion?

Because God commanded that they do not disobey him. Satan entered into the Garden and fooled them into disobeying God.

That only happens when they become an adult, and they understand right from wrong, as the same way Adam & Eve understood right from wrong.

I don't know.. you tell me? God says, all children are rewarded a crown of life, but those who do wicked and evil deeds are condemned to Fire and Brimestone.

Children are reguarded as a "reward to the Mother" in the eyes of God.

dog-on

Perhpas you should study Genesis a bit more closely. It seems you are a bit confused as to the story.

Dark Virtue

Dangit IBIH, I'm going to call you out again!

Please quote me the verse that says "The Old Serpent in the Garden".

Stop twisting verses to match what you want them to!

There are only four verses that include serpent in Revelations and NONE of them refer to the Garden of Eden

Now you put that in quotes, so please explain how you're not twisting scripture to try and back up your arguments???

Either you are WRONG or this is a LIE.

Which is it?

IBelieveInHymn

Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?”

And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Revelation 12:9


So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim, and the flaming sword which turned every direction, to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3:24

How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! But you said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Shale, To the recesses of the pit. Isaiah 14:12-15


You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz, and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx, and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise, and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared. You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire. You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created, Until unrighteousness was found in you. By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:13-16

He was the anointed cherub who used to cover God. A cherub is not a baby angel but a powerful angel with wings (Ezekiel 10:2). The word cherubim refers to more than one cherub (Exodus 25:19). They appear for the first time in Genesis 3:24 when God commanded some of them to guard the Garden of Eden to prevent Adam and Eve from returning to the garden. God had thrown Adam and Eve out because they had sinned.

dog-on

If that is how you read the bible, I understand your confusion.