Dave Hawkins

Creationist or non-creationist. I am still amazed.

Occam's Aftershave

LOL! You mean like the English Channel localized flood that happened over 200,000 years ago? Or the multiple Missoula localized floods that happened 30,000 years ago?

Don't blame us if we read the evidence you yourself linked to Dave.

And Dave, please allow me to remind you for the 1437th time that claiming something could happen is not evidence that it did happen. :banghead:

Now Dave, where's the evidence for that 1 mi. deep Flood sediment layer in Egypt you promised you'd present?

Vicious Love

I agree. Clearly nothing short of an omnipotent god could conceal a 1-2 mile thick global sedimentary layer. The plain fact that the flood sediment is utterly imperceptible is overwhelming evidence of a deceitful god.

Constant Mews

Your amazement is based on ignorance of scientific fact, scientific methodology, and science history.

Good devout creationist Christians proved that the flood did not happen; that the world and the universe is ancient beyond your dreams, and that Genesis is not historical.

Good devout creationist Christians, Dave.

You need to learn to deal with facts, not fantasies.

And I have read creationist material - a great deal more of it than you have - and it's all, without exception, garbage: poor science, abused science, special pleading, logical fallacies, and the like.

ericmurphy

Why are you astonished, Dave? You yourself demonstrated to us the complete and utter lack of evidence for any such thing. In over 50,000 words, you were able to present exactly zero empirical evidence that your beloved "flood" ever happened. You keep talking about "abundant" evidence for it, but despite a year of trying, you haven't found any.

You can't even show us the sediment that supposedly was left by this flood? How could you miss it, if it were there?

Pappy Jack

Dave, you miss the point again. What the terms refer to is not particularly significant.

What is significant is that by making spurious correlations between various measures that you have decided are significant, you can find 'encoded' within the ratios values that, for whatever reason you might want to latch onto, you find significant.

This is what many of us have been trying (so far unsuccessfully) to drive home to you with regard to the contrived nonsense of Piazzi Smyth's theories on Khufu's Pyramid.

Stephen T-B

I am curious as to how afdave and the Creationist "scientists" think the story of the Flood got into the Jewish scriptures.
For instance, was it done by Divine Revelation?
Should we picture Moses summoning a scribe and saying "Quick - take this down: I am receiving a Divine Revelation", and then proceeding to relate
the entire account of Mr and Mrs Noah and their boys and what they did when God drowned the entire world? Did he comment, in mid-flow so as to speak, "Crickey! who'd have believed that!"

Or did Moses hear the story as part of an oral tradition?
If so, can afdave and the Creationist "scientists" suggest how it reached him but no-one domiciled elsewhere in the world who must have been descended from the Noahs.
You see, the extraordinary thing (to me, anyway) about the "Flood" stories which different cultures have, and which apparently all refer to the same world-wide flood, is that only one of them - the Jews' - refers to the Jewish god and the Noah family and their Ark and getting all the world's terrestrial creatures on board it.

Refused

So, I read through 29 pages only to find out that Praxeus still hasn't answered Red Dave's questions?

Wow.
Praxeus, please think of the lurkers. We deserve an answer.

Calilasseia

Oh, and Dave, I've had this thread waiting for you to tell us all where you think this 'massive global flood deposit' resides. You haven't shown any inkling of even visiting the thread. I created is specifically for you to visit for that purpose Dave ... I even provided you with a handy list of geological strata so that you can say either 'none', 'some' or 'all'.

There you go Dave. A ready-made opportunity to tell us all where this 'massive flood deposit' is. Going to take that opportunity, or will that thread be forever clutching its bouquet at the altar waiting for the Davey groom to show up?

Gracchus

Per PM, I have determined that praxeus maintains that the questions have been answered.

:huh: