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Chili · 05-26-2006, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RUmike

Another thing to consider is that we have Matthew's gospel, which used Mark's text within probably less than 2 decades of its creation. Matthew transfers the title to Jesus' father, but clearly tektwn was in the Markan text available to him at the time.

I hold that Joseph was the carpenter but he was a carpenter with shepherds and sheep that were out herding his sheep on the night that Christ was born unto him. These same shepherds were called to be disciples of Joseph who is called Jesus after rebirth and is here now recognized as the carpenter who is preaching the good news as Nazorean by nature. It shows the change of heart or metanoia.

RUmike · 05-26-2006, 08:49 AM

Chili, what on earth are you talking about. You have 4,311 posts but I don't think anyone understands a single one of them.

Chili · 05-26-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RUmike

Chili, what on earth are you talking about. You have 4,311 posts but I don't think anyone understands a single one of them.

If Jesus was the reborn Joseph he was man once called Joseph who was said to be a carpenter. Notice that they do not recognize him as son of Joseph but son of Mary which is significant if they knew who Mary was.

I presented it to explain the age gap between Joseph and Jesus and also the connection between Joseph and Jesus while he is called the son of Mary.

But I do not think that he was a carpenter by trade because he also had shepherds and sheep.

Chili · 05-27-2006, 06:09 AM

Well yes, the shepherds were out herding sheep means that Joseph was beyond theology when Christ was born unto him. After all, if the use of the TOK got us banned from Eden the abandonment of the TOK will be required to get back intor Eden.

In evidence of this we placed one ox and one mule in the stable to provide body heat for the infant to be loved to life. The ox and the mule represent the pacified Adam and Even of the TOK in the stable where Mary went for the first time in her life on account of Joseph.

If the stable is the TOK the shepherds were out to show that Joseph was beyond theology and the sheep they were herding represent the accumilated knowledge of Joseph. If so, then he sure was no carpenter either but just a fine creator of common things which is known by the fact that he had 12 shepherds to be converted into disciples (cf Macbeth who was an apostle short).

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05-26-2006, 08:49 AM	#2
RUmike Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 491	Chili, what on earth are you talking about. You have 4,311 posts but I don't think anyone understands a single one of them.

05-27-2006, 06:09 AM	#4
Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Well yes, the shepherds were out herding sheep means that Joseph was beyond theology when Christ was born unto him. After all, if the use of the TOK got us banned from Eden the abandonment of the TOK will be required to get back intor Eden. In evidence of this we placed one ox and one mule in the stable to provide body heat for the infant to be loved to life. The ox and the mule represent the pacified Adam and Even of the TOK in the stable where Mary went for the first time in her life on account of Joseph. If the stable is the TOK the shepherds were out to show that Joseph was beyond theology and the sheep they were herding represent the accumilated knowledge of Joseph. If so, then he sure was no carpenter either but just a fine creator of common things which is known by the fact that he had 12 shepherds to be converted into disciples (cf Macbeth who was an apostle short).

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