MrMacSon

I disagree. It is likely it was all being shaped and reshaped together.

See http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....55#post7137255

add Tertullianus was an important writer and supporter of early christianity, before he aligned with Montanism. He promoted the concept of the Trinity, for example.

add² De Carne Christi, a polemical work by Tertullian against the Gnostic Docetism of Marcion, Apelles, Valentinus and Alexander, purports that the body of Christ was a real human body, taken from the virginal body of Mary, but not by way of human procreation.

Among other justifications for the incarnation of Christ, it states that

• "the choice of 'foolish' flesh is part of [God's] conscious rejection of conventional wisdom", and that
• "Without true incarnation, there can be no true redemption... God must have flesh, in order to have a real death and real resurrection."

De Carne Christi, Mahé edition.

an addition link - http://www.tertullian.org/articles/e...rn_00index.htm
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aa5874

A son of a God is a God in ancient Mythology.

Again, the author of gMark did called his Jesus the Son of God. Why can't you admit that you may have been led astray???

Mark 1:1 KJV
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Mark 3:11 KJV
And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried , saying , Thou art the Son of God.

Mark 5:7 KJV
And cried with a loud voice, and said , What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

Mark 15:39 KJV
And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out , and gave up the ghost , he said , Truly this man was the Son of God.

gMark's Jesus was NOT human because the author MADE SURE he claimed Jesus was SEEN WALKING on the sea.

Mark 6:48 KJV
And he saw them toiling in rowing ; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.

But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out :


gMark is a story about a DIVINE character that WALKED on water, transfigured and resurrected.

JonA

Of course what other authors had to say about Jesus is completely irrelevant to what Mark had to say about Jesus.

jdl

Earl, your book The Jesus Puzzle has obviously broken with scholarly convention. Most horrible publications tend to have errors spread throughout their entire length. Can you tell us why you confined your errors to the very first line of your book? Do you think this is because of your lack of credentials?

Toto

But it is quite relevant to the question of whether Mark must be read as describing a historical individual or a divine entity.

Vorkosigan

Did you get this information via seance? Or what?

Vorkosigan

JonA

Mark must be read according to the words written on the paper.

dog-on

Exactly and if the rulers of this age had known any better, they never would have crucified the Lord of Glory.

jdl

And your reading can't be informed by the perspective of people who existed within Mark's cultural milieu?

JonA

My interpretation can.

But I cannot claim that Mark said something that isn't written in his book. I cannot say that Mark said something that I only interpreted him as having sad.

Because that's just dishonest.