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10-13-2008, 12:39 PM | #1 |
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Jesus, mangods, cryptozoology and cynocephaly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynocephaly
St Christopher is depicted with a doghead. Marco Polo thought people like mastiffs lived on the Andalucians. Should not Jesus be categorised primarily as a species of cryptozoology, this time human with god bits? |
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Prove he existed, then prove his heritage, then show his place in taxonomy.
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I am arguing we should start by assuming a place in mythical taxonomy!
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Somehow, human-animal hybrids are different from human-god hybrids.
After all, gods were made in the image of man, so a mangod is just an augmented man, not a hybrid, and not part of cryptozoology. |
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Surely that is an artificial distinction. Any combination of a living creature with something else should be studied and categorised as examples of human inventiveness. The bionic man, artificial hearts, prosthetic limbs, St Christopher, cyclops and Jesus are only variations of ways to combine stuff - why exclude supernatural stuff? |
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But ink is one of the ways humans use to communicate with each other. We also have paintings like the emperor Christ and drawings of fish.
Now we have worked out the evolution of the horse, what would an evolutionary tree of the jesus look like? It might actually go - fish, shepherd, cross, emperor, virgin and baby, bloke on cross - taking several hundred years. |
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Yes, and the evolution of the historical jesus could also go something like this:
Basilica of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem, Israel Basilica of the Holy Apostles, Constantinople Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, Rome Basilica of St. Peter, Vatican Valley, Rome Basilica of St. Lorenzo, Rome Basilica of St. Sebastiano Basilica of St. Marcellino Basilica of St. Pietro Basilica of St. John, Laterano (over barracks of Maxentius' soldiers) Basilica of St. Maxentius Basilica of Santa Sophia Basilica of St. Constantine, Rome An explosion of construction in the fourth century that exceeds any known construction project in precious stone in all antiquity being undertaken by our dear benefactor Constantine, for the posterity of the new testament which He lavishly published. Best wishes Pete PS: There was an age when He was not. |
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I do not claim infalibility. The words of Arius may not necessarily imply Jesus was a fictional creation, but neither do they suggest otherwise. The words of Julian are more substantial, and the words of Nestorius are more objective reporting. We do not have any evidence before Nicaea. If we have where is it? The consequent possibility is that the historical jesus made his first appearance in the fourth century, along with the basilicas and the Constantine bible. Best wishes, Pete |
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