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Two baptismal formulas
Prior to “ascending to heaven” Jesus instructed the disciples to go baptize with the Trinitarian Formula, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, teaching all nations the “THINGS” [??] (Matthew 28:19).
Some days [few weeks] later Peter is found contradicting it and baptizing only in the name of Jesus, for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). Obviously, the last three verses of Matthew are a late “interpolation”, etc.; every conscientious student knows about it. Why is it then that fundamentalist theology protects the NT text as inerrant? |
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Because to fundamentalist theologians, it is not at all obvious that anything in the NT was interpolated, and they dispute your assertion that "every conscientious student" disagrees with them about that. They think it is entirely possible to be a conscientious student while adhering to inerrancy.
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There was a "later" third formula. "Don't bother with baptism." Jesus must have revealed the "modified third formula" to the writer called Paul. |
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For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. "not with wisdom of words" refers back to preaching. The next few verses refer to the folly of wisdom. Paul is attacking pagan wisdom, not baptism. Quote:
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It must be obvious that the writer's skill of preaching is irrelevant to his so-called non-commission from the resurrected Jesus to baptize. And in all the letters with the name Paul, the writer only spends about five verses on baptism, and claimed he only baptized just two persons plus one household. Now, the mere fact that the writer Paul claimed he was not commissioned to baptize by the resurrected Jesus is an indication that the writer Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 1.17 after Matthew 28.19. |
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"Now, the mere fact that the writer Paul claimed he was not commissioned to baptize by the resurrected Jesus is an indication that the writer Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 1.17 after Matthew 28.19." True. Therefore, we can establish with that “internal evidence” that 1 Corinthians was written much later than what Scofield said in his chronology of NT scripture. I don’t know where that famous dispensationalist got all that chronological information, really! Paul LIED to his readers, when he contradicted the gospels left, right and centre! Paul was a liar all his life, that’s the bottom line. We can catch him lying all the time; not least when he prophesied the second coming of the Jesus who [he said with no witnesses!!] gave him his special revelation [Galatians 1] for his days!! Paul was a deluded liar! Paul cannot fool me. |
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