Steven Carr

I have started a debate on the resurrection of Jesus on the Richard Dawkins web site at http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/...ic.php?t=12232

Steven Carr

The debate is now finished and comments are welcome at

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/...ic.php?t=12233

After 10 posts of trying to defend the Gospels view that a corpse was given eternal life, my opponent was reduced to saying '' Here, Paul describes the earthly body as a "tent" (i.e., temporary living structure) and the new body as something that is a "building" built by God, something that one is "clothed" with'

gracebkr

Can we debate it here?

Steven Carr

Of course.

gracebkr

Well I have to say I have 3 kids, so I am hoping this is not going to be one of those things that only have a certain amount of time. I would just like to argue with you since you don't believe.


Do you believe Jesus' body was laid in a rich man's tomb as the prophesies foretold?

Steven Carr

There is no evidence to decide.

Very few people who were crucified were laid in a rich man's tomb.

RareBird

Physical "resurection" (and presumably ascension) only makes sense in a flat world--one sandwiched between an assumed heaven and a hell. If we're on a round ball however, which is itself spinning, then the ascention has nowhere specific to go to--the risen body would be sorta knocking around the ozone for show (or something). Take away the "flat world" presumption and you take away any credence of a resurection/ascension. It's ca-ca.

gracebkr

Don't you think though that the story of the tomb being empty could have been squashed fairly easily, if he had not been laid there and the Romans could have produced the body. Why would anyone who knew Jesus was thrown into nowhere go around saying 'the tomb was empty he has risen' if they knew he wasn't even laid there? Not the Biblical characters, the other Jews. Wouldn't the ones who repeated this story have to know where he was laid to believe he had risen?

gracebkr

Resurrection and ascension are different, let's debate the topic, this could get too out of control if we start throwing other things in. I am not trying to be rude, but I would like to discuss this after I prove I am right.

Cege

Prophesies or prophecy? What scriptures prophesied a rich man's tomb?