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Old 07-19-2006, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default The Atheist's Toolbox on the Bible

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I would appreciate your input. My friends and I are developing a new site which contains a series of rebuttals against common statements or questions related to the Bible, Atheism and Evolution amongst others. Essentially it's a site full of resources or a toolbox if you will for laymen.

Here is the link to the section about the Bible:

http://www.atheisttoolbox.com/fcbible.htm

And the general site can be found at www.atheisttoolbox.com.

Any suggestions regarding improvements or other popular questions/claims would really be appreciated.

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Old 07-22-2006, 02:25 PM   #2
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what about the other religions of the world. why the foucus on christianity?
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Well, if it's a developing site, then I'd kind of expect Christianity to be the first priority. I'd second the notion of adding in information on other religions, even if altogether they only amounted to half of what you have on Christianity.

Stuff on skepticism and science would be good too.
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Well, if it's a developing site, then I'd kind of expect Christianity to be the first priority. I'd second the notion of adding in information on other religions, even if altogether they only amounted to half of what you have on Christianity.

Stuff on skepticism and science would be good too.
I know it an developing site. It's good that it has the rebuttal to common apologists so we shall see
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Given that christianity is a living faith, constantly regenerating and refreshingly expressing itself in the individual christian, and being based on deep spiritual convictions, you may need to consider specifically if you can expect to defeat it using rote arguments. An alternative - to show, by example or otherwise, that the life of the atheist is more exciting, fulfilling and rewarding on as many levels as possible than that of the christian.
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Given that christianity is a living faith, constantly regenerating and refreshingly expressing itself in the individual christian, and being based on deep spiritual convictions, you may need to consider specifically if you can expect to defeat it using rote arguments.
We don't use, or need to use, rote arguments--the only tools needed are logic and objectivity.

It's rote arguments that we are countering--the same old unchanging goofy chestnuts that Christians throw around without critical examination. A tired collection of "rote arguments" is all that artificially props up Christianity. It is literally by rote that its practitioners trot out cherry-picked bible verses out of habit, believing that they're actually true, and without fully understanding or even evaluating why they aren't.

All de-bunking sites like this one are trying to do is throw some hard light on these old fables to illustrate that they are no better than any of the other old fables that we've already consigned to history's dustbin; Yahweh is living on borrowed time until he can join Ra, Odin, and Zeus.


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An alternative - to show, by example or otherwise, that the life of the atheist is more exciting, fulfilling and rewarding on as many levels as possible than that of the christian.
You're way off. Nobody is trying, or needs to try, to show that "atheists have more fun." It isn't a competition measured by a fun-meter, and it isn't our original claim. Most Christians are fond of telling unbelievers that they're immoral, live empty lives, and blah blah blah, making the claim that only a Christian lifestyle is truly rewarding. WE can, and do, easily refute this silly pipe dream of Christians.

I think it genuinely bugs Christians that atheists can happily go about their daily lives while displaying the same level of "morality" as their Christian neighbors, but we aren't the ones making the original claim that OUR way is the only way to be happy.

We're simply telling you, "you're dreaming (as usual) if you think YOUR way is."
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Given that christianity is a living faith, constantly regenerating and refreshingly expressing itself in the individual christian, and being based on deep spiritual convictions, you may need to consider specifically if you can expect to defeat it using rote arguments. An alternative - to show, by example or otherwise, that the life of the atheist is more exciting, fulfilling and rewarding on as many levels as possible than that of the christian.
The OP is asking for input about a page devoted to rebutting commonly made assertions about the BIBLE, not Christianity per se.

Your post is off-topic in this thread.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:18 AM   #8
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Thank you for some of the comments guys. I was looking for some comments on our rebuttals or other common claims that could be added.

We already have a detailed are covering evolution and science. Topics such as Reason and science vs faith are already covered.

In regards to other religions, I completely and utterly concur that there is a need for that and I am busy developing a similar section on the Qur'an. There is also a general section on Religions in general which covers comparative religions.

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