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Old 09-23-2009, 10:03 AM   #171
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[Oh wait, I know!!! Because he/she was brought up in a predominately Christian enviroment, so thats ok to use the Lord's name in vain?

You're talking about breaking a commandment, but I'm willing to bet you don't remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy do you?
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Hate to break the news to you, but theists do not own the language, including common expressions that refer to deities. I have no problem using these expressions. I celebrate the secular version of Christmas too. (ooooh, spooky hypocrisy music playing in the background).
There is no such thing as a secular Christmas, for the simple fact that 'Christmas' in translation means "A Mass for Christ."

I've always wondered why atheists celebrate religious festivals. That's just mind-baffling.

Some atheists tell me "Christmas" was actually originated by the Pagans. And my reply is, why do atheists celebrate a religious holiday that is so deep in religious tradition?

And most importantly, these atheists will condemn the Bible for it's atrocities, but they continue to celebrate pagan rituals, and we know the pagans were known for burning their own children on the stake in the name of the Pagan gods.

One of the reasons you are baffled is that you make things up.

What makes you think that atheists (always) call out to god when in trouble?

I wonder if you have ever been in as much pain and danger as I have... I hever called out to god. I say "holy mother of god" sometimes, half way as a joke, when something goes wrong in the lab.

The use of the expressions common to a culture just means they are common to the culure!!

As for why atheists celebrate religoius festivals? You are just way too easy to baffle. In Hong Kong and other asian cities, they make a big deal aobut christmas. its fun! and it sells a lot of suff, and we get presents. so why not? What is baffling os how people take it all pompous and serious.
Of course, Christmas is just the name xtians tacked on to an ancient festival that they hijacked. You can try but you cant spoil it for the rest of us that way.


"And most importantly' what you have to say is a simple minded ad hom?

Ad hominem tu quoque
Main article: tu quoque

Ad hominem tu quoque (lit: "You too!") refers to a claim that the source making the argument has spoken or acted in a way inconsistent with the argument. In particular, if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way. This argument is fallacious because it does not disprove the argument; if the premise is true then Source A may be a hypocrite, but this does not make the statement less credible from a logical perspective. Indeed, Source A may be in a position to provide personal testimony on the negative consequences of the stated action.

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* "You say that stealing is wrong, but you do it as well."


Its not atrocities in the bible anyway. it is the countless atrocities carried out by christians that dont appeal so much to us non christians. perhaps a bit of time with the spanish inquisition would clarify this point? may i reccomend the strappado? no? fire under an iron chair?
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I used a capital L when I spell out the Lord's name. That comes without thought.

I'm just curious.. when an atheist gets upset, why do they scream out the Lord's name? Are they seeking for help? When was the last time an atheist screamed out "Muhammed dammit!!"? lol
It's simply a geographical/cultural thing...if you lived in the Middle East you might hear that more often than you think.


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There is no such thing as a secular Christmas, for the simple fact that 'Christmas' in translation means "A Mass for Christ."
Oh give me a break. What exactly is Christian about Christmas?

1) Ok, we have CHRIST. I'll give you that one, even though we could also say everything can be attributed to Mithras.
2) Date? Sorry, that has NOTHING to do with Christ and is meant to tie into the winter solstice.
3) Presents? Nope, pagan tradition.
4) Evergreen Tree? Nope, pagan tradition.
5) Holly? Nope, pagan tradition.
6) Yule logs? Nope, pagan tradition.

Want to keep going?

How about Easter? Want to try that instead?
1. what did GOD say about celebrating around a tree for festivals?

2. What did GOD say about cutting a tree out of a forest?

I'll give you a little clue. He forbids it!! He commanded that his followers do not cutteth down a tree and fasten it with nails, and decorate it with silver and gold. Why? Because these were Pagan traditions!

Why modern Christians display Christmas trees in their house every December 25th just baffles me. That is strictly going against the LAWS of GOD.
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You weren't, that's the problem
Atheists are blurting out the Lord's name in vain.. and you claim I'm the one not thinking?

It doesn't matter where you were raised, or if your community was mainly Christian.. That doesn't give you any right to use God's name in a slanderous meaning.

No respectable atheist will use God's name in a defamatory manner.

I guess in the mind of an atheist.. God only exists when you want to slander his name.
Oh, you want to get technical? OK, let's.

He said lord with a little L, how do you know he meant YOUR lord?

An atheist saying "Oh my god" doesn't imply YOUR god.

An atheist saying "god damnit" doesn't imply YOUR god.

Your arrogance, however, assumes that.

We have hundreds of gods that we think of all on the same level: imaginary.
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It's simply a geographical/cultural thing...if you lived in the Middle East you might hear that more often than you think.




Oh give me a break. What exactly is Christian about Christmas?

1) Ok, we have CHRIST. I'll give you that one, even though we could also say everything can be attributed to Mithras.
2) Date? Sorry, that has NOTHING to do with Christ and is meant to tie into the winter solstice.
3) Presents? Nope, pagan tradition.
4) Evergreen Tree? Nope, pagan tradition.
5) Holly? Nope, pagan tradition.
6) Yule logs? Nope, pagan tradition.

Want to keep going?

How about Easter? Want to try that instead?
1. what did GOD say about celebrating around a tree for festivals?

2. What did GOD say about cutting a tree out of a forest?

I'll give you a little clue. He forbids it!! He commanded that his followers do not cutteth down a tree and fasten it with nails, and decorate it with silver and gold. Why? Because these were Pagan traditions!

Why modern Christians display Christmas trees in their house every December 25th just baffles me. That is strictly going against the LAWS of GOD.
But that doesn't stop any of them does it?

What mainstream Christian church preaches against this practice?

All those pagan symbols are now held dearly to the bosom of Christians everywhere as entirely Christian.

EDIT: BTW, when I was a Christian, and yes, there was a time when I was, I never celebrated Christmas, Easter or Halloween. I did however, honor the Feast of Tabernacles, Day of Atonement, etc. How do you think I was treated by my fellow Christians?
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Oh, you want to get technical? OK, let's.

He said lord with a little L, how do you know he meant YOUR lord?

An atheist saying "Oh my god" doesn't imply YOUR god.

An atheist saying "god damnit" doesn't imply YOUR god.

Your arrogance, however, assumes that.

We have hundreds of gods that we think of all on the same level: imaginary.
The point you're trying to make is absurd. I don't care if atheists screamed out Buddha dammit!! I would still ask the same question. If you don't believe in Buddhism, then why slander the name?

It's funny how atheists scream out the very first name that comes to mind when they get angry and upset.

Actually, it's not funny. Just a figure of speech.
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I've always wondered why atheists celebrate religious festivals. That's just mind-baffling.
Is it baffling to you when people who don't believe in leprechauns eat Lucky Charms?

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And most importantly, these atheists will condemn the Bible for it's atrocities, but they continue to celebrate pagan rituals, and we know the pagans were known for burning their own children on the stake in the name of the Pagan gods.
Pagan rituals involve plenty of food, music, intoxicants and free sex. Who doesn't want a piece of that? Pay me enough and I'll even go to your fundy church with you.
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Is it baffling to you when people who don't believe in leprechauns eat Lucky Charms?
How do you skip from disgracing God to eating a bowl of cereal? Is this a parody?


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Pagan rituals involve plenty of food, music, intoxicants and free sex. Who doesn't want a piece of that? Pay me enough and I'll even go to your fundy church with you.
So it's perfectly acceptable for an atheist to join in on the festivals that engage in sexual acts, music and plenty of food? Can you say Sodom and Gomarrah?

So, let me get this straight...

You have no concern that the pagans (who invented this ritual) used to kill their own children in the name of the pagan gods?

And why don't you mind engaging in these rituals if you know the pagans used to slaughter their own children?

But, you will be the first one to post a thread about the atrocities of Christianity/Judaism/Islam.

Meanwhile, you are dwelling in evil traditions orginated by paganism?
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Oh, you want to get technical? OK, let's.

He said lord with a little L, how do you know he meant YOUR lord?

An atheist saying "Oh my god" doesn't imply YOUR god.

An atheist saying "god damnit" doesn't imply YOUR god.

Your arrogance, however, assumes that.

We have hundreds of gods that we think of all on the same level: imaginary.
The point you're trying to make is absurd. I don't care if atheists screamed out Buddha dammit!! I would still ask the same question. If you don't believe in Buddhism, then why slander the name?

It's funny how atheists scream out the very first name that comes to mind when they get angry and upset.

Actually, it's not funny. Just a figure of speech.
LMAO! You just made my point for me!!!!!!!

Thank you!

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Oh, you want to get technical? OK, let's.

He said lord with a little L, how do you know he meant YOUR lord?

An atheist saying "Oh my god" doesn't imply YOUR god.

An atheist saying "god damnit" doesn't imply YOUR god.

Your arrogance, however, assumes that.

We have hundreds of gods that we think of all on the same level: imaginary.
The point you're trying to make is absurd. I don't care if atheists screamed out Buddha dammit!! I would still ask the same question. If you don't believe in Buddhism, then why slander the name?

It's funny how atheists scream out the very first name that comes to mind when they get angry and upset.

Actually, it's not funny. Just a figure of speech.
The odd thing here is how you asrcibe this behavior to atheists, when this applies to humanity in general.

With your vast knowledge of Hebrew, there is probably no need to mention that this language has no swear words so an Israeli will cuss in Arabic. These will often refer to anatomical parts of the other persons female relatives.

Another aspect of swearing is the sex of the person that you're swearing at. It's always struck me as remarkable that we (in America at least) don't refer to women as "assholes."

Fascinating subject.
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