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sugarhitman · 02-17-2008, 10:33 AM

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Johnny Skeptic · 02-17-2008, 10:40 AM

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That is false. No God who wanted to convince people to believe that he can predict the future would always make indisputable predictions. Any God who wanted everyone to believe that he can predict the future could have accomplished that thousands of years ago. In addition, any God who wanted to strenghten the faith of his followers with prophecy after the fact in the best possible ways would always use indisputable prophecies, never disputable prophecies like all Bible prophecies are. Regarding the Tyre prophecy, since Ezekiel did not mention Alexander, it is obvious that God did not intend to use the Tyre prophecy to strenghthen the faith of believers after the fact. When Alexander defeated Tyre, some Jews must have wondered why Ezekiel did not mention Alexander. Since Ezekeil called Nebuchadnezzar "a king of kings," and said that he would go down the streets of Tyre, and tear down its towers, it is probable that the "many nations" part of the prophecy was added after it became apparent that Nebuchadnezzar was not going to be able to defeat Tyre.

Bible prophecy is one of the worst defenses of Christianity because Christians cannot come up with any good reasons why God would want to always make disputable prophecies.

It is no accident that the most scholarly Christians at this forum usually do not defend Bible prophecy.

By the way, if you have thousands of hours to spend debating prophecy, so do I.

sugarhitman · 02-17-2008, 11:01 AM

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That is false. No God who wanted to convince people to believe that he can predict the future would always make indisputable predictions. Any God who wanted everyone to believe that he can predict the future could have accomplished that thousands of years ago. In addition, any God who wanted to strenghten the faith of his followers with prophecy after the fact in the best possible ways would always use indisputable prophecies, never disputable prophecies like all Bible prophecies are. Regarding the Tyre prophecy, since Ezekiel did not mention Alexander, it is obvious that God did not intend to use the Tyre prophecy to strenghthen the faith of believers after the fact. When Alexander defeated Tyre, some Jews must have wondered why Ezekiel did not mention Alexander. Since Ezekeil called Nebuchadnezzar "a king of kings," and said that he would go down the streets of Tyre, and tear down its towers, it is probable that the "many nations" part of the prophecy was added after it became apparent that Nebuchadnezzar was not going to be able to defeat Tyre.

Bible prophecy is one of the worst defenses of Christianity because Christians cannot come up with any good reasons why God would want to always make disputable prophecies.

It is no accident that the most scholarly Christians at this forum usually do not defend Bible prophecy.

By the way, if you have thousands of hours to spend debating prophecy, so do I.

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xaxxat · 02-17-2008, 11:12 AM

More bullshit preaching...

Is it the new IIDB policy to let people preach as much as they want now?

Johnny Skeptic · 02-17-2008, 11:14 AM

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No God who wanted to convince people to believe that he can predict the future would always make disputable predictions when he could easily make indisputable prophecies that would discourge dissent instead of inviting dissent. Since the Bible writers always made disputable predictions, that is sufficient evidence that the God of the Bible does not exist.

Why does God always make disputable predictions? Well, er, uh.......

How do disuptable predictions benefit God or anyone else? Well, er, uh.......

Amaleq13 · 02-17-2008, 11:45 AM

Since the author of the OP is apparently incapable of supporting his position with substantive argument, this thread is closed.

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