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Old 07-24-2012, 02:38 PM   #31
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Shallow aa. Extremely shallow.
Are you claiming that Acts of the Apostles supports an historical Jesus???

1. In Acts 1.9, Jesus ascended in a cloud to heaven. Such an act does NOT require a real human Jesus.

2. In Acts 2.1-2, The Holy Ghost Filled up the Disciples and gave them the POWER to preach--Without the POWER of the Ghost there would be NO preaching of the Gospel.

3. In Acts 9, Paul was Blinded like a Bat when he Heard a voice in his head--such a thing does NOT require a human Jesus.

Acts of the Apostles show that the Jesus cult of Christians started WITHOUT any human Jesus and that it was Belief in a Holy Ghost that started the Jesus movement.

Jesus had ALREADY gone to heaven BEFORE the Gospel was preached and Before the Jesus cult started.

The Jesus story is essential a 2nd century Myth Fable that was BELIEVED by some in antiquity.
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Shallow aa. Extremely shallow.
Are you claiming that Acts of the Apostles supports an historical Jesus???
No. I am stating that your posts consistently reveal that your comprehension of the content of, and the reasons these texts were written is extremely superficial and shallow.
You reveal that do not fathom anything beyond the superficial story.

I'll present you with this little example about fathoming the difference between the deep and the shallow from the Book of Acts;
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27. But when the fourteenth night was come, as we were driven up and down in Adria, about midnight the shipmen deemed that they drew near to some country;

28. And sounded, and found it twenty fathoms: and when they had gone a little further, they sounded again, and found it fifteen fathoms.

(Acts 27:27-28)
For once in your pitiful miserable life aa, LOOK at this text, and tell us what you can fathom about it.

What does this particular text reveal to you?

What is the significance of these words?

Why do you think these detailed measurements were provided?

Do you have any comprehension at all of the significance of what it is that is contained and being revealed in these two verses?

I doubt it. But you are certainly invited to prove the depth and measure of your knowledge and wisdom regarding the content of this text.



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Old 07-24-2012, 08:06 PM   #33
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No. I am stating that your posts consistently reveal that your comprehension of the content of, and the reasons these texts were written is extremely superficial and shallow.
You reveal that do not fathom anything beyond the superficial story...
You are just blowing a lot of hot air.

Why can't you FATHOM that Jesus in Acts was Non-historical??

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7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath putin his own power.8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you.........And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld , he was taken up ; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Why can't you FATHOM that it was the Holy Ghost--NOT Jesus-- that gave the disciples the POWER to preach the Jesus story in Acts???

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1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come , they were all with one accord in one place.2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind..........And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance ....
Saul/Paul's BLIND conversion did NOT require a real human Jesus just what he HEARD in his head.

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6And it came to pass , that, as I made my journey , and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.7And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?8And I answered , Who art thou , Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest .
Acts of the Apostles SHOW that a human Jesus was NOT necessary and did NOT START the Jesus cult of Christians.
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No. I am stating that your posts consistently reveal that your comprehension of the content of, and the reasons these texts were written is extremely superficial and shallow.
You reveal that do not fathom anything beyond the superficial story...
You are just blowing a lot of hot air.

Why can't you FATHOM that Jesus in Acts was Non-historical??
Dumb de dumb dumb. Talk about hot air.

I have argued for years, and in hundreds of posts in this Forum that 'Jesus' of the Bible (any Book) is not a real historical individual.
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7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath putin his own power.8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you.........And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld , he was taken up ; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Why can't you FATHOM that it was the Holy Ghost--NOT Jesus-- that gave the disciples the POWER to preach the Jesus story in Acts???
Why can't you fathom that it is just a fucking STORY? That NONE of this ever happened?
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1And when the day of Pentecost was fully come , they were all with one accord in one place.2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind..........And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance ....
Saul/Paul's BLIND conversion did NOT require a real human Jesus just what he HEARD in his head.
Are you just too fucking stupid to recognise mythical STORY when you read it? 'Paul' was the 'Jack' of a 'Jack and The Beanstalk' tale, not any actual individual.
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6And it came to pass , that, as I made my journey , and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.7And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?8And I answered , Who art thou , Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest .
Acts of the Apostles SHOW that a human Jesus was NOT necessary and did NOT START the Jesus cult of Christians.
You think any of this shit ever really happened??? Do you have shit for brains???
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I have argued for years, and in hundreds of posts in this Forum that 'Jesus' of the Bible (any Book) is not a real historical individual...
Can't you understand English??

LOOK at the OP.

Acts of the Apostles DESTROYS an Historical Jesus.

Acts of the Apostles is MYTH fable of characters called Jesus, the disciples and Paul.
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...Why can't you fathom that it is just a fucking STORY? That NONE of this ever happened?
Acts of the Apostles DESTROYS an historical Jesus. Tell that to EHRMAN and DOHERTY. NONE of the things happen.

People MUST stop using Acts of the Apostles to date the Pauline letters.

Acts of the Apostles is a Fiction story.
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Are you just too fucking stupid to recognise mythical STORY when you read it? 'Paul' was the 'Jack' of a 'Jack and The Beanstalk' tale, not any actual individual.
You appear confused. Now, LOOK at the OP. Acts of the Apostles DESTROYS an Historical Jesus. Can't you understand English??

People who use Acts of the Apostles as a source of history don't know that it is a TALE.
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...You think any of this shit ever really happened??? Do you have shit for brains???
Please, read the OP. You seem to have a problem with understanding that I am ARGUING that Acts of the Apostles is NOT history.

You appear totally confused.
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Not half as confused as you are, with your loony fruitcake claim that there were no Jewish men named Jesus in the 1st century CE
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Acts of the Apostles DESTROYS an historical Jesus. Tell that to EHRMAN and DOHERTY. NONE of the things happen.
YOU tell it to them if you want. They will be glad to ignore your tirade.
They want to sell books.
Stating that the things that are written in the NT never happened, does not sell.
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Not half as confused as you are, with your loony fruitcake claim that there were no Jewish men named Jesus in the 1st century CE
It is clear to me that you have some kind of problem because you are making all sorts of strange erroneous statements.

This OP clearly states "Acts of the Apostle Destroys an Historical Jesus". Please, it does NOT say that there was no Jewish man named Jesus in the 1st century.

I have SHOWN you that Acts of the Apostles is a Myth Fable, a Ghost story about a character called Jesus that Ascended in a cloud [Acts 1], that the disciples were POWERED to PREACH the Jesus story by a Ghost [Acts 2] and that Paul was Blinded like a Bat when he heard a Voice of the Ascended Jesus [Acts 9].

My argument is SOLID and cannot be contradicted.

Acts of the Apostles is a Myth Fable.

The Jesus cult of Christians did NOT require a real human Jesus based on Acts--just the Belief that the stories were true.
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YOU tell it to them if you want. They will be glad to ignore your tirade.
They want to sell books.
Stating that the things that are written in the NT never happened, does not sell.
Please examine your own statement. You seem to have forgotten what you said.

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I have argued for years, and in hundreds of posts in this Forum that 'Jesus' of the Bible (any Book) is not a real historical individual...
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...Why can't you fathom that it is just a fucking STORY? That NONE of this ever happened?
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...You think any of this shit ever really happened??? Do you have shit for brains???
You seem to be terribly confused. Please take a time out. I am ARGUING that Acts of the Apostles does NOT support an historical Jesus.
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Not half as confused as you are, with your loony fruitcake claim that there were no Jewish men named Jesus in the 1st century CE
It is clear to me that you have some kind of problem because you are making all sorts of strange erroneous statements.

This OP clearly states "Acts of the Apostle Destroys an Historical Jesus". Please, it does NOT say that there was no Jewish man named Jesus in the 1st century.

I have SHOWN you that Acts of the Apostles is a Myth Fable, a Ghost story about a character called Jesus that Ascended in a cloud [Acts 1], that the disciples were POWERED to PREACH the Jesus story by a Ghost [Acts 2] and that Paul was Blinded like a Bat when he heard a Voice of the Ascended Jesus [Acts 9].

My argument is SOLID and cannot be contradicted.

Acts of the Apostles is a Myth Fable.

The Jesus cult of Christians did NOT require a real human Jesus based on Acts--just the Belief that the stories were true.
So people came along and made up a bunch of stupid horseshit claims, and make up Myth Fables.
That they did so proves nothing one way or another as to whether the person that they made this horseshit up about ever lived or not.

A member of my old church claimed that Jesus had sat down on a stump in the woods and shared his lunch with him, and another time swooped down out of the sky and saved him from drowning in a river.

That this guy made up such horseshit is no reflection on the question of whether there might have been a first century preacher who may have been named Jesus.

The horseshit tales presented in Acts prove NOTHING regarding the possible former existence or non-existence of any possible first century preacher.
No more than that emotional horseshit that was spewed by these 'witnesses' for Jesus' just last week.

And no, no real belief that these horseshit stories were true has ever been required for people to claim that they are 'Christians'.
The churches have always been full of 'Christians' that are there for reasons other than any genuine belief in the Jesus mythology.
Constantine offered freedom from taxation as an incentive, hardly a wonder that he was able to quickly gain thousands of influential 'bishops'.

The lures nowdays tend to be more mundane, a 'respectable' venue to get married and buried in, and a local social club and help group.
"Christian" 'singles groups' are now wildly popular. They are hardly attended because people are genuine Christ believing Christians, just horny, lonely people that want to get laid.
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