outhouse

Myther's raising more questions then answering.

Ignores the possibility of a crucifiction at passover with enough witnesses to generate generations of oral traditions, about a heroic figure.


Fact, the temple was corrupt and the average Jew furious.

Fact, lies put forth painting the Romans as inoccent players.

Fact, there was already a split in Judaism by God-Fearers before Jesus was born.

Fact, Paul could only describe a mythical Jesus, he never knew the possible real one.

Chili

But the problem is that Nazareth did not exist at that time except in the mind of the believer where Mary was from.

Let's identify her as the women who was never banned from Eden* to be maintained by his integrity. If you read her Canticle it will show you how this works, with God being First cause and Lord God Second as the Immanent Will with potential to become known by the Son to be conceived, and here so then, for Joseph, the time has come in Luke but not in Matthew.

So I do not deny the historic Jesus and see a basis for faith, as that potential is present in each one of us.

The thing we have to worry about, as sheep hearing the shepherds voice, is to avoid the wolf dressed in sheeps clothing to lead the believer astray by yanking on his integrity so this child within may now be born; for which the evengelist is satans favorite candidate because he knows exactly how that is done. i.e, first painting a rosy picture and then creating guilt.

It is America's favorite sport, govenment sanctioned abova all, first of all in the 'freeom of religion' where it is open season on suffering souls, and second via the house of commons where religion plays a major role in politics, to even the basis whereon civil judgements are made . . . and without pardon for the victim who tried to take a stand.

Maybe not on topic here, but just to show in contrast are the very, very, stringent rules in hunting rights, where in Canada here just last year a fine was laid of well over 100 k, with jail to booth, for just shooting an animal out of season (by 3 days or so), and out of territory, and by a guide himeslf, because it was a trophy animal he knew, lol, (not sure if the particulars are still online but can be searched,).

Chili

Be careful here as only the eternal Christ is real, and so the historical Jesus, if only real by mythical personification, is never real except as the temporal image to get the job done.

So it does not matter how present on earth you make Jesus, if he had to die as agent on our [personal] behalf he was temporal in every which way you look at it.

Jesus is like a wheel barrow pusher on top the hill when we humans are worn out, so that a fresh surge of power can finish the job we started as believer.

So in this sense is he Nietzsche's lion that we ride instead of the old worn out camel that took us to beth-le-hem, by the woman in our soul because we were just at the end of our days, and she said YES!!!!!! here is my change and on the beth-le-hem she kind of 'dragged' us to pay our final tax. Hear, hear, aa.

outhouse

To bad even Carrier has stated he thinks a Nazareth existed pre 70.


theres no reason why Nazareth would not be set up as a work camp for the rebuilding of Sepphoris.

And because the site cannot be dug upon, does not mean there was nothing there pre 70 CE.

outhouse

Yet you cannot claim this with any credibility.

You have the freedom to enjoy anyone of the many different mythologies in place and run with it till the cows come home.

Doesnt make it the most popular one, nor the originating version.

outhouse

And the Roman/Gentile authors of Gmark were factually writing to Romans and competing the Jesus charactor with the emporer.

The Emporer a mortal man called and worshipped as "The son of god"

The Emporer who was born under a star sign, minted on a coin prior to Jesus and his star sign.

The Emporer who spoke to large crowds prior to a Jesus charcator, fictionally speaking to large crowds like the fictional Sermon on the Mount.


Terms such as "Lord" and "Son of God" were used for mortal men.

Chili

Oh for sure, a believer will do anything to make it work, and so a work-camp Nazareth will be, portable even, and so no traces to be found.

And damned be him who knows the way it goes.

Chili

Let me give you a hint how Christ is real. He, masculine, is the innermost depth of every woman on earth, and so it is 'that' the heart of woman is the heart of Christ.

Then let me add that this is the basis for a woman as female to belong, subservient indeed without an identity of her own, except in him. He, on the other hand needs a place to call home, and will find it in her.

That is how by nature they are opposite, and can have intercourse with each other as opposites, and become close, and closer as they mature and will be fully one in Christ.

Now I can go on and tell you that to get the bottom of her soul you will need a mermaid, and so forth, but that is not important now. I add it just to say that when he gets there, his Atlantis she will be, and she will be 'that' which she was looking for and found it exposed in him [because he will be[come] what she is all about]. So in this sense is it natural for females to expose, and for males to look, but that is just a in lower form wherein the ideal is sought.

And I am not preaching here at all. Just telling you how it is.

Chili

Catholics have been stacking heaven ever since, whether you like it or not, and communion with the Saints is real, which so is that puts our 'brand name' on the water that us used for Baptism, so it may be a worthy Sacrament.

Let's not forget here that mortals are only mortal in their conscious mind where only time as such is counted, of which the 'tick-tock' of the clock is constant reminder that we must also count our days as we get older, and not just out money, is implied, or the girls we laid.

The point is that no matter how obnoxious you want to be, also you are eternal in your own right brain, and to get there all you have to do is move.

Oh, and then let me remind you again that Mark missed the mark and went to hell.

outhouse

This is not about opinion.

Its about facts. There is a city called Nazareth, the only thing to debate is when it was first inhabited and why.

It would have been a small village pre 70 CE. With being in close proximity to Sepphoris that factually was detroyed some time around 6-7 ish CE. A work force would have been needed to rebuild it. Theres no reason to think Jewish peasants used in the work force that could not live in this Hellenized "Jewel of Galilee" would have had to live close by.

Why were Roman authors claiming "no good could come from this place" why were there negative remarks being made?

Factually the area is not researchable due to the current buildings locations.