Johnny Skeptic

John 3:2 says "The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. John 10:37-38 say “If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.” In those cases, Jesus' power confirmed his words. His words did not confirm his power. In the NIV, Acts 14:3 says "So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to do miraculous signs and wonders". That is another example of power confirming words, not words confirming power.

GakuseiDon

And so... ?

Johnny Skeptic

And so if God wants as many people as possible to go to heaven, and as few people as possible to go to hell, the best way for him to accomplish this would be for him to do everything that he could do in order to achieve this, which would include Jesus returning to earth and performing miracles all over the world. Is it your position that God is not able to do anything more than he has done to achieve this?

Julian

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Sounds like GRD or possibly Philosophy to me, we'll see where it ends up but for now...

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Julian
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Johnny Skeptic

That is fine, but I doubt that Gakusei Don is interested in participating in an extended debate on the nature of God at any forum. I already have a similar argument in a thread that I just started at the GRD forum, so there is not any need for you to transfer this issue there.