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Bilbato · 01-18-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewcriddle

Cross-culturally 'speaking in tongues' seems similar to 'spirit possession'.

Most people trying to avoid a very broad definition of shamanism separate it from 'spirit possession'

I would say that if you are researching anything that delves into the spirit world, then you cannot so aptly disconnect things. You may say 'spirit possession' is seperate from Shamanism, but that is wrong. In may cultures in which there is a shaman, they often deal with spirit possession of people.

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Originally Posted by andrewcriddle

If you are saying that every religion that has ever existed is a form of very widely defined shamanism, then I agree that Jesus is, by that definition, presented as a shaman in the Gospels.

I am not saying that every religion is shamanism. I am saying that all religions are "descendants" of shamanism and other oral religion. So to some degree or another, al religions have some aspects of Shamanism and those other oral religions. So though Christianity is not itself a Shamanistic religion, it does hold aspects of it. just as Christianity holds aspects of Judaism which it descended from.

Vorkosigan · 01-18-2005, 03:07 PM

If you are going to go with the Jesus = shaman position, how are you accounting for the sayings traditions?

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Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	If you are going to go with the Jesus = shaman position, how are you accounting for the sayings traditions?

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