QRUEL

since this is a two pronged question, of which I need biblical knowledge...I'm posting it here...mod feel free to move

i was wondering if this map of middle east wars was correct

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

it list the kingdom of Isreal at 1050 B.C.E.

does this jell with the bible ?

or is it based on actually history ?

Chris Weimer

Weird. I noticed this map yesterday from an entirely different forum and thought about the same thing. Yeah, Biblically, it's accurate, not secular, although the two, depending on whom you speak with, sometimes match up.

QRUEL

thanks Chris.
Since that map draws on the bible for the Isreal Kingdom, it makes me wonder if there are any other mistakes

Anat

Well, we know some entity named Israel or the like was there since around 1200 BCE (from Merneptah's stele), what is unclear is when they became an established kingdom or two. (Probably two kingdoms from the start, though.)

Chris Weimer

Along with the size of the kingdom(s).

Kosh

Now, according to that map. Israel took territory away from Egypt, not the Canannites?

Anat

The population was Canaanite, but there were Egyptian representatives and soldiers guarding the commercial roads, taxing the population and occasionally sending small forces to aid the rulers of the Canaanite city-states maintain the peace.

Kosh

Of course, that's not the biblical story, right?

Is this actually showing that the Canaanites evolved into the Israelites as Egypt lost control? (Per Finkelstein and Silberman)

Anat

No, this is not in the Bible. The Bible hardly mentions any Egyptians in Palestine at any time - Hagar was Egyptian, the city of Gezer was supposedly the Pharaoh's gift to Solomon when he married the former's daughter, one of David's warriors killed an anonymous Egyptian, and then there was the Shishak campaign, and several centuries later Necho kills Josiah in Megiddo.

The maps of the site merely show the Davidic kingdom suddenly appearing after the disappearance of Egyptian presence, ignoring Canaanites, Phoenecians (what remained of the Canaanites once Israel and Judah became established) and Philistines. Or any subdivisions within the Israelite population.

Sarpedon

Pretty good map, but it should have shown more of the successor states of the Greek and Mongol empires. I didn't see Ptolemy's kingdom, or Tamerlane's.